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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    Occupy : No

    Attack : Yes.

    They attack Israel with proxy rockets
    through Hezbolah and Hamas.
    Occupy : No <--- you are right i give you a pass.
    Attack : Yes <--- you havent answered this one correctly. When was the last time IRAN attacked a country? I know you are better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    Occupy : No <--- you are right i give you a pass.
    Attack : Yes <--- you havent answered this one correctly. When was the last time IRAN attacked a country? I know you are better than that.

    So what's the answer Einstein? I'm sure you would say they never attacked Israel, and those aren't their missiles and rockets, even captured Hamas and Hezbollah leaders confirmed they are.

    Another thing, if you allow me to add.

    Iran took full control of Abu Musa, an island in the Persian Gulf, they occupied the islands belonging to the United Arab Emirates in 1971.

    Iran was subject to the rule of the Ottomans for hundreds of yrs and was incabable of making any mishief or invasions during these periods.

    Then world war 2 came. Then the Mullahs. Then this modernist period.


    Do you want me to add their ancient Persian military history as well? The invasions they made almost half of the known world? Since Iranian were Persians, the direct descendants of this line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    So what's the answer Einstein? I'm sure you would say they never attacked Israel, and those aren't their missiles and rockets, even captured Hamas and Hezbollah leaders confirmed they are.

    Wow i was amazed by your knowledge. Thank you for enlightening me.

    It seems you have a hard time saying the correct answer.

    If we have a missile given by USA and fired it to CHINA. Does it mean The United States attacked China?


    Anyway I think im done here. To sum it up..

    There are always evil foreign policies in all Governments. The question is which is the less evil?

    IRAN: Attacked Iraq to defend itself from the Iraqi invasion which ended in 1988, more than two decades ago.

    ISRAEL: Attacked Lebanon & massacred Palestinian people. And still occupied a sovereign territory of Palestine.

    US: Importing democracy by bombs policy. Killed almost a million lives in a decade.

    you decide base on your own plain basic common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    If we have a missile given by USA and fired it to CHINA. Does it mean The United States attacked China?
    :

    Well, the USA did attacked Russia back in the 80s using proxy wars by supplying Afghanistan ammunitions, M16s, Stinger missiles, and radar devices. It's part of the cold war games.

    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post

    ISRAEL: Attacked Lebanon & massacred Palestinian people. And still occupied a sovereign territory of Palestine.

    US: Importing democracy by bombs policy. Killed almost a million lives in a decade.

    you decide base on your own plain basic common sense.


    Your statements seemed twisted bro. But thanks for your insights.

    1) The conflict between Israel and Hezbollah began on July 12, 2006 when Hezbollah terrorists crossed the border into Israel and attacked an Israeli army convoy, killing eight soldiers and kidnapping two others. Remember my previous statements, Israel never provoked war with it's neighbors.

    Hezbollah embedded itself within a civilian population, housing its office buildings, military positions, and weapons caches among civilians. Hezbollah also fired its rockets from within civilian villages and cities making it extremely difficult if not impossible to distinguish between civilian and Hezbollah areas. Israel dropped leaflets and broadcast radio messages warning civilians to leave certain areas, often giving up the element of surprise.
    2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict - Conservapedia

    2) " Killed almost a million lives in a decade." The numbers you gave is exaggerated.

    But to tell you the truth, the number you gave would quadruple if the US didn't intervene on modern day conflicts where mass slaughter of civilians and ethnic cleansing happened. (e.g Somalia, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Khmer Rouge, etc...)

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    Nag hemorrhage akong brain ninyong duha oi. Puede I-explain nga maka sabot mi mga people with average IQ lang intawon.

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    @Bleedingboi

    I don't have to argue with you in matters which are so clear in our very own eyes that we don't even have to be in their places just to prove who is telling the truth. And I don't insist that only my sources are reliable and bearing the truth, you just have to be free from any preconceived notions and be rational and logical in assessing if the facts cited were of the truth. There are many sources of information for us to be equipped with knowledge of reality, let us just be sincere.

    And I won't dare question you being a writer, as you have said, writing reviews and articles on Mid Eastern current events for years. You can go on writing with what you think is right, but don't even think that all the people will believe on whatever you write as the truth, as I've said it will always depends on your frame of reference. Just remember that there are always two sides of a story, Truth and Falsehood.

    As for the issues of your thread my personal view on this is, it don't matter to me as long as their goals and purposes are for the development and for the welfare of mankind. Sharing of beneficial technology makes the world a livable place, so be it. Iranians/Persians proved their contributions to science just review the annals of history and look for the names like that of Al-Khwarizmi, Ibn Sina, Al Tusi, Jabir ibn Hayyan and many more and it will no longer surprise me if they will take to lead back science to its beneficial and proper purpose for mankind. And also, as long as this so-called fact is aim for the purpose of achieving genuine peace untainted with personal interests and conducted in the spirit of cooperation and in the absence of hegemonical interests, so be it. The world is already full of hate that each and everyone of us should contribute even in our own little way for the establishment of genuine peace.

    Peace bro,

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    @Bleedingboi

    I don't have to argue with you in matters which are so clear in our very own eyes that we don't even have to be in their places just to prove who is telling the truth. And I don't insist that only my sources are reliable and bearing the truth, you just have to be free from any preconceived notions and be rational and logical in assessing if the facts cited were of the truth. There are many sources of information for us to be equipped with knowledge of reality, let us just be sincere.

    And I won't dare question you being a writer, as you have said, writing reviews and articles on Mid Eastern current events for years. You can go on writing with what you think is right, but don't even think that all the people will believe on whatever you write as the truth, as I've said it will always depends on your frame of reference. Just remember that there are always two sides of a story, Truth and Falsehood.

    Peace bro,

    I understand bro. But we can't simply stand by and watch two nations arm each other up ( although secretly). Remember how Britain neglected and watched Nazi Germany broke the demilitarization treaty.

    I agree, some sources are unreliable, but this all funnels down to which source is much valid as followed by History books of all 170 countries, not by two countries alone.


    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    As for the issues of your thread my personal view on this is, it don't matter to me as long as their goals and purposes are for the development and for the welfare of mankind. Sharing of beneficial technology makes the world a livable place, so be it. Iranians/Persians proved their contributions to science just review the annals of history and look for the names like that of Al-Khwarizmi, Ibn Sina, Al Tusi, Jabir ibn Hayyan and many more and it will no longer surprise me if they will take to lead back science to its beneficial and proper purpose for mankind. And also, as long as this so-called fact is aim for the purpose of achieving genuine peace untainted with personal interests and conducted in the spirit of cooperation and in the absence of hegemonical interests, so be it. The world is already full of hate that each and everyone of us should contribute even in our own little way for the establishment of genuine peace.

    Peace bro,

    As a matter of fact Iran/ Persia did a lot more things than what you mentioned above.
    1) Insurance by Government was started during Cyrus the Great of Persia.
    2) Weight, Money and Measurements were standardized in Persia
    3) Sanskrit, which is the mother of all modern languages, was born in Iran, before it went to India
    4) The first accounting tools were found in Iran.
    5) The first brick invention took place in Iran
    6) The world's greatest masonry work is Perspolis, Iran
    7) While all other world powers persecuted and discriminated against the Jews (e.g. The Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans and later Germans and the Russians etc.) the Persians were the only world power who actually liberated and protected the Jews (the only monotheistic religion of that time).
    One of the earliest Legal Codes in the world is called The Law of the Medes and the Persians

    And so much more...

    I love Iran's historic background, it's one of the most interesting civilizations in the world. But I hate how it is being politicized today by just one secular idealism, the same idealism that seems to destroy this beautiful culture. Hopefully this changes.

    Inshallah!

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    Canadian gov't severe ties with Iran . Canada closed its embassy in Tehran . Iranian gov't closed its embassy in Ottawa and diplomats have 4 days to leave the country .

    Canada closes embassy in Iran, expels Iranian diplomats - Politics - CBC News

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    Canadian gov't severe ties with Iran . Canada closed its embassy in Tehran . Iranian gov't closed its embassy in Ottawa and diplomats have 4 days to leave the country .

    Canada closes embassy in Iran, expels Iranian diplomats - Politics - CBC News
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    This guy think the Holocaust didn't exist and now this ...

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused his country's enemies of enacting a sinister plan to create a drought by somehow destroying the rain clouds before they reach Iran, several Iranian websites reported on Tuesday.

    Well-known for his anti-American and anti-Israeli rhetoric, Mr. Ahmadinejad has made similar remarks before and last year accused the West of devising a plot to cause drought in the Islamic republic.

    "The enemy destroys the clouds that are headed towards our country and this is a war Iran will win," Mr. Ahmadinejad said on Monday, according to several websites including the BBC's Persian-language site and SNN.ir - .:Student News Agency:. -.

    SOURCE: Iran

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