Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[riko diko]

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How can it be unconstitutional, when erap himself voluntarily left his post? Supreme Court declared the position vacant due to it's interpretation of erap's abandonment of the Malacanang Palace. Another thing, at the highlight of the 2001 impeachment trial, erap's lawyers decided to abandon him, they no longer want to defend due to the persistence of the millions of filipinos who wanted erap to resign.

What's unconstitutional was the taking over of GMA, and not the stepping down of Erap. Remember, Erap didn't die, wasn't sick, nor impeached. On abandonment, I recall GMA took oath first before Erap moved out. On his lawyers, our law doesn't say anything about lawyers abandoning clients. Doesn't make sense.

By virtue of the 1987 Constitution, under Section I of Article II, "The Philippines is a democratic and republican State. Sovereignity resides in the people and all the government authority emanates from them." Since sovereignty resides in us, an expression of overwhelmingly majority's lost of trust in the president is allowable. If I may reiterate, only overwhelmingly majority, as millions, not just thousands or hundreds.

That is your interpretation. But, I think what's meant here is through elections. Not through some rally that media "estimates" that to have reached millions.

I'm not a die hard Erap. I'm just sharing my opinion why I think GMA did more damage. I'm not glorifying Erap, it just looks that way when I compare him with GMA. What can I do?

[jhose101]

on my point of view...

Who CAUSED MORE DAMAGE TO THE COUNTRY, ERAP OR GMA...

is not the problem...andÂ* the caused more damage to our beloved county..
is is the PEOPLE in this country!! believe me even if a very good pres. will be put, there will always be a problem if there will be no change in heart in all other offcial. People how always be in power! :mrgreen:

[s.n.m.p.]

@ Jored & tempest:
don't forget to mention that GMA is the only politician in the world who took oath as president unconstitutionally. who took the position because a mob in manila, a high-judge asked her to.

How can it be unconstitutional, when erap himself voluntarily left his post?Â* Supreme Court declared the position vacant due to it's interpretation of erap's abandonment of the Malacanang Palace.Â* Another thing, at the highlight of the 2001 impeachment trial, erap's lawyers decided to abandon him, they no longer want to defend due to the persistence of the millions of filipinos who wanted erap to resign.

Some people can't accept the fact that their beloved Erap was a weakling who voluntarily abandoned his post, unlike GMA who continues to defy the sour losers attempting to unseat her.

GMA is simply shameless and callous. nasakpan na nag paugat pa.

[bisaya70]

erap-he is worthless, there is nothing between those ears

[bisaya70]

erap-he is worthless, there is nothing between those ears

ooops, sorry double post.

[my_pet_monster]

How can it be unconstitutional, when erap himself voluntarily left his post? Supreme Court declared the position vacant due to it's interpretation of erap's abandonment of the Malacanang Palace. Another thing, at the highlight of the 2001 impeachment trial, erap's lawyers decided to abandon him, they no longer want to defend due to the persistence of the millions of filipinos who wanted erap to resign.

What's unconstitutional was the taking over of GMA, and not the stepping down of Erap. Remember, Erap didn't die, wasn't sick, nor impeached. On abandonment, I recall GMA took oath first before Erap moved out. On his lawyers, our law doesn't say anything about lawyers abandoning clients. Doesn't make sense.

By virtue of the 1987 Constitution, under Section I of Article II, "The Philippines is a democratic and republican State. Sovereignity resides in the people and all the government authority emanates from them." Since sovereignty resides in us, an expression of overwhelmingly majority's lost of trust in the president is allowable. If I may reiterate, only overwhelmingly majority, as millions, not just thousands or hundreds.

That is your interpretation. But, I think what's meant here is through elections. Not through some rally that media "estimates" that to have reached millions.

I'm not a die hard Erap. I'm just sharing my opinion why I think GMA did more damage. I'm not glorifying Erap, it just looks that way when I compare him with GMA. What can I do?

Actually, that was the Supreme Court's interpretation. Also, there's something written in the Constitution that sovereignty resides in the people. (Please bear with me, I forgot the exact lines, but more or less that's the essence.) If sovereignty resides in us, the majority's expression of lost of trust thru people power justifies what happened in Edsa dos.

Anyway, the SC first declared the position vacant before GMA took oath at exactly 12:00 noon on Jan. 20, 2001. Btw, the decision was unanimous.

[slyder]

nobody caused more damage to this country... no other than, it's citizens.

[Moshi Moshi]

We correct our society by concentrating on what is happening now.Â* Sitting government officials who do ill to the Philippines don't get prosecuted by pointing to past criminals and past regimes criminal wrongdoing as an example over the current ones thereby giving legal mandate to current sitting government officials as a more viable more trustworthy legal officials.

Current government officials who commit ills should be voted out no matter what and replace them with a new competent one. If the new one commit ills vote them out again until you have an honest, with right moral values government official as our leader.

nobody caused more damage to this country... no other than, it's citizens.

Blame everyone. Good. Are you not going to do anything about it?Â* If you can't, next election vote for candidates with the right morals. Prosecute sitting officials who have conflicts of interest. Replace them.

Cebu has vigilante for small petty criminals. Who gets the Big Fish? Seems vigilante is run by the Big fish.
A perfect crime syndicate.

[slyder]

competent and honest officials u say, i know they're in near extinction. how can u even not think of corruption when running for office will cause someone almost a fortune just to make it to the top. why? because peoples votes can be bought. and this, i think, is why almost anyone who's in position is trying to grab as much as they could to cover up for their losses.

[pandisal]

...and thats why, the losers (that is the opposition) are trying hard to do what they're doing
right now coz they lost a lot of fortune from last election... theyre making up a lot of noises... :mrgreen:
and that is the huge cause of damage to our country right now...