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  1. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0 View Post
    hmm... i also had thoughts of this in the past. if you're not literate or educated enough dapat dili maka-vote kai kai mao raba na ang rason sa kadaugan ni erap. ang mga ihas nagboto niya.

    unsaon kaha na? tagaan ug IQ test sa pre-elections? hehehe
    hatagan ug murag board exams bro.. one must be licensed to vote..

    paita.. imo vote sayon ra i-offset sa another vote nga binayran...

  2. #112

    Default Re: Fixing our country: Where did we go wrong?

    @emow: daghan kaau kag yawit doh oi. nindot sad kaayu basahun ky wala tuo nga english pero sa imo mga gipangyaw2x nga mura ug sakto naa gihapon kay "but" ug "i think"hahaha d gihapon sure. pag sure diha oi. ay palabi pa sweto.. swela swela aron sweto.haha

  3. #113

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    i acknowledge the harm democratic vote can do to the losing voters, but i am left at a loss on how to go about the issue.

    Why should we regulate the vote and exclude some of the citizens from voting?
    - because they maybe incapable of voting wisely based on the information provided by biased media
    - because they may inconvenience the entire populace by their lack of ability to vote wisely

    These are valid reasons but there is a basic counter argument for these. Will there be an assurance that the non-voters will also not be inconvenienced by the possible wrong choices of the voters?

  4. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozentime View Post
    @emow: daghan kaau kag yawit doh oi. nindot sad kaayu basahun ky wala tuo nga english pero sa imo mga gipangyaw2x nga mura ug sakto naa gihapon kay "but" ug "i think"hahaha d gihapon sure. pag sure diha oi. ay palabi pa sweto.. swela swela aron sweto.haha
    wait wait wait....the mere presence of "but" and "i think" discredits my stand? Is that how limited you are in exercising your faculties of reason? Everyone has their own ideas, lay down yours or STFU.

  5. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    i acknowledge the harm democratic vote can do to the losing voters, but i am left at a loss on how to go about the issue.

    Why should we regulate the vote and exclude some of the citizens from voting?
    - because they maybe incapable of voting wisely based on the information provided by biased media
    - because they may inconvenience the entire populace by their lack of ability to vote wisely

    These are valid reasons but there is a basic counter argument for these. Will there be an assurance that the non-voters will also not be inconvenienced by the possible wrong choices of the voters?
    another counter argument is that it would be unconstitutional in a double standard kind of way. the people with the right mental capacity can vote while the rest can't? it would also defeat the purpose of our democracy.

    however, i believe that can be addressed in a constitutional reform. the problem with this is that a politician can never do away with this because the masa represent a large portion of the phil. population. in short, sayang ang votes. tilokon gyud na ang numero taman sa ginhawa. unless, of course we also change our gov't system, which renders the intention moot.

  6. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuyabog View Post
    hatagan ug murag board exams bro.. one must be licensed to vote..

    paita.. imo vote sayon ra i-offset sa another vote nga binayran...
    mao. dili pa siya sure-sure gyud na solution.

  7. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0 View Post
    another counter argument is that it would be unconstitutional in a double standard kind of way. the people with the right mental capacity can vote while the rest can't? it would also defeat the purpose of our democracy.

    however, i believe that can be addressed in a constitutional reform. the problem with this is that a politician can never do away with this because the masa represent a large portion of the phil. population. in short, sayang ang votes. tilokon gyud na ang numero taman sa ginhawa. unless, of course we also change our gov't system, which renders the intention moot.
    The exercise of democracy should be limited, while the exercise of Republican rule should be emphasized. That should limit the harm politicians can do if they are not to form laws affecting individual rights and the free market...

  8. #118

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    haha chill nerd.l.

  9. #119

    Default Re: Fixing our country: Where did we go wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by frozentime View Post
    haha chill nerd.l.
    hahaha....whatever dunce..

  10. #120

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    How can we even start to discuss about solutions when in fact there is a fundamental problem regarding our identity as a nation.

    You guys wanna have a genuine strong republic? an economic juggernaut? THEN WE SHOULD KNOW OURSELVES FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE..

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