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[dawn runner]

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Again Señor Blade, I want to clarify myself. Since the government admit the original therefore it admits its existence.

About the splicing, well it is the governments claim that a copy was "spliced." We are not sure if its really a splice copy after all. Its the governments claim.

About the loss of votes, there is such thing as circumstantial evidence. It is admissible if one is able to connect material points. Here we have some connections. The "tulungan" quote and the resulting shrinking of the lead.

The decrease of the lead is the result of the "tulungan" comment.

[scooby-doo]

balik nako... how about the request GMA made if he (person in the other line) can delay the canvassing of votes.

kinsa man d i ni nga supporter nga maka-delay man sa canvassing og ngano ipa-delay man. your thoughts.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the news tonight.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the rules tonight.

and why would she want it delayed?

[dawn runner]

A very good observation scooby doo. Keep it up. Ngano bitaw no?

[dawn runner]

Quotable quotes of Atty. Paguia:

"I am not part of the opposition. Chiz [Rep. Francis Escudero of Sorsogon] was right in saying the opposition had nothing to do with it [tape]. This is my duty . . . to let the Filipino people know the truth for once," he said.

He dared the administration to sue him. "For exposing its lies."

"she is a fake President. You don’t impeach a fake President, you only impeach a constitutional President."

With Patricia Esteves

[blade101]

Again Señor Blade, I want to clarify myself. Since the government admit the original therefore it admits its existence..

no, arguement there

About the splicing, well it is the governments claim that a copy was "spliced." We are not sure if its really a splice copy after all. Its the governments claim...

again, why would you have to splice an original when they know that the original audio file alone can prove that they are innocent. why show that there is such a spliced copy.why show 2 discs when 1 alone will suffice? kai naa man lain nga gusto nga mu discredit sa government and these people are trying to use that spliced conversation to topple the gov't.

About the loss of votes, there is such thing as circumstantial evidence. It is admissible if one is able to connect material points. Here we have some connections. The "tulungan" quote and the resulting shrinking of the lead.

The decrease of the lead is the result of the "tulungan" comment.

do you have the proof needed to connect these 2 events?nope, I don't think so...so it's considered speculation...

[dawn runner]

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again, why would you have to splice an original when they know that the original audio file alone can prove that they are innocent. why show that there is such a spliced copy.why show 2 discs when 1 alone will suffice? kai naa man lain nga gusto nga mu discredit sa government and these people are trying to use that spliced conversation to topple the gov't.

Kaya nga eh. The government claims there is a spliced copy. Atty Paguia has said he only has the original. So ang nag splice ang gobyerno. Ang nagsabi merong splice ang gobyerno pa rin. Pero sa totoo walang splice. Original lang talaga. Ang gobyerno lang ang gumagawa gawa ng ganito na may spliced copy para SIGURO lituhin ang taumbayan.

With regard to the vote padding, what proof do I need? The results showed that the lead shrink.

You know what happened to the Lanao votes? There are so many "snopaked" entries and erasures. Worse the original canvass was not submitted to COMELEC Manila right away. The results of the special elections were combined with the original canvass. It is when the results of the special elections in the 27 municipalities are combined with the original results that the horrendous votes of Barbers came out almost wiping the lead of Sen. Biazon.

[blade101]

balik nako... how about the request GMA made if he (person in the other line) can delay the canvassing of votes.

kinsa man d i ni nga supporter nga maka-delay man sa canvassing og ngano ipa-delay man. your thoughts.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the news tonight.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the rules tonight.

and why would she want it delayed?

see, this is a simple case of how a single word can completely mess up a sentence.the simple change of "news" to "rules" changes the whole things. what the speaker in this case GMA is trying to say is that canvassing has to be delayed because the rules of canvassing votes have not been voted on. for those not familiar with canvassing of votes, there are strict rules and protocol to be followed when canvassing votes. if these rules are not followed, then it can be grounds for nullification of votes.normally, these rules are agreed on by a vote by the board of canvassers along with the representatives of the different candidates of that particular area. so canvassing could be delayed if this is the case, no rules would mean the votes from that area could be counted as void

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[dawn runner]

balik nako... how about the request GMA made if he (person in the other line) can delay the canvassing of votes.

kinsa man d i ni nga supporter nga maka-delay man sa canvassing og ngano ipa-delay man. your thoughts.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the news tonight.

Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the voting on the rules tonight.

and why would she want it delayed?

see, this is a simple case of how a single word can completely mess up a sentence.the simple change of "news" to "rules" changes the whole things. what the speaker in this case GMA is trying to say is that canvassing has to be delayed because the rules of canvassing votes have not been voted on. for those not familiar with canvassing of votes, there are strict rules and protocol to be followed when canvassing votes. if these rules are not followed, then it can be grounds for nullification of votes.normally, these rules are agreed on by a vote by the board of canvassers along with the representatives of the different candidates of that particular area. so canvassing could be delayed if this is the case, no rules would mean the votes from that area could be counted as void

Sir Blade, i know yu are an intelligent man. but let us not jump to conclusions.

All you have here are speculations. Lets hear the original coming from atty. paguia and not the original presented by the government.

[FK]

again, why would you have to splice an original when they know that the original audio file alone can prove that they are innocent. why show that there is such a spliced copy.why show 2 discs when 1 alone will suffice? kai naa man lain nga gusto nga mu discredit sa government and these people are trying to use that spliced conversation to topple the gov't.

and maybe ila gibali... and original mao gihimo nilang splice, nya ang splice gihimo og original.

laing tuki-onon.

wala'y makahatag og opinion kong ngano ipa delay ni GMA ang canvassing?
ngano wala pa man ni gawas ng panganlan og Gary?