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  1. #111

    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Isn't that a little bit off the charts? I mean, if you are agnostic theist then you shouldn't be saying that God exist. It should be like, "I believe that there's something out there..." di ba? Maybe I am wrong... but that's how I thought it is.
    Theist - God exists.
    Agnostic - Man cannot explain this existence.

    Just because one cannot explain something, does not mean he has to discredit it. One of man's sickness is the compulsion to always find an explanation to anything and everything even if its beyond his capacity to comprehend.

  2. #112
    CROSSBREED

    Anything partaking of the natures of two different things

    MURABAG! MARCOTTING SA TANOM PANI !

    Complement and interact each other.

    interdependent “ FAITH and REASON “ Gi Markot … SYARO! haposssssss

  3. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by cassenav View Post
    Theist - God exists.
    Agnostic - Man cannot explain this existence.

    Just because one cannot explain something, does not mean he has to discredit it. One of man's sickness is the compulsion to always find an explanation to anything and everything even if its beyond his capacity to comprehend.
    ok I get it. So, an agnostic theist is one who views that the truth value of certain claims, in particular the existence of god(s) is unknown or inherently unknowable but chooses to believe in god(s) in spite of this. So, how exactly explains that his existence? My understanding about agnostic is without the possibility of evidence, which translated means belief without knowledge. Meaning, unknown, as it hasn't been found it yet.

    Just being curious.

  4. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    ok I get it. So, an agnostic theist is one who views that the truth value of certain claims, in particular the existence of god(s) is unknown or inherently unknowable but chooses to believe in god(s) in spite of this. So, how exactly explains that his existence? My understanding about agnostic is without the possibility of evidence, which translated means belief without knowledge. Meaning, unknown, as it hasn't been found it yet.

    Just being curious.
    i thought you're an atheist?!

  5. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by seven_segment View Post
    i thought you're an atheist?!
    nope... sorry if made you think like that.

  6. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    ok I get it. So, an agnostic theist is one who views that the truth value of certain claims, in particular the existence of god(s) is unknown or inherently unknowable but chooses to believe in god(s) in spite of this. So, how exactly explains that his existence? My understanding about agnostic is without the possibility of evidence, which translated means belief without knowledge. Meaning, unknown, as it hasn't been found it yet.

    Just being curious.
    So, how exactly explains that his existence?

    Precisely. Man is not capable of explaining it.

    Agnostics, unlike atheists do not absolutely dispense with the idea of God. There could or there could not be a God. So I belong to that branch who believe that there is. Only that we humans are not capable of explaining it. But I believe in it even if I am not capable of explaining it. Yun lang naman po ang point ko. Kc when people try to explain - they vary in their interpretations, which is the most common cause of confusion and conflicts. So I prefer to stay somewhere in the middle of the spectrum - the atheist on the one side and the religious extremists on the other.


    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    My understanding about agnostic is without the possibility of evidence, which translated means belief without knowledge. Meaning, unknown, as it hasn't been found it yet.
    Knowing does not necessarily mean being able or having the capacity to explain why or how something happens or why or how something exists. For me knowing is perceiving. You perceive things as you experience them yet you may not be able to explain these things. And just because you cannot explain, does not mean you have to disregard it. The air we breathe. Can we see it? But we believe there is air right? Because we perceive it - we feel it. But can we explain how and where did it come from?

  7. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    What is a HERETIC?

    her⋅e⋅tic

     /n. ˈhɛrɪtɪk; adj. ˈhɛrɪtɪk, həˈrɛtɪk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [n. her-i-tik; adj. her-i-tik, huh-ret-ik] Show IPA Use heretic in a Sentence

    –noun 1. a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church. 2. Roman Catholic Church. a baptized Roman Catholic who willfully and persistently rejects any article of faith. 3. anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle.
    –adjective 4. heretical.

    Origin:
    1300–50; ME heretik < MF heretique < LL haereticus < Gk hairetikós able to choose (LGk: heretical), equiv. to hairet(ós) that may be taken (verbal adj. of haireîn to choose) + -ikos -ic

    Synonyms:
    1. apostate, backslider, recreant, protestant. 3. dissenter, skeptic, freethinker.
    kadtong sa usa ka thread dri nga nihatag ug link sa the inquisition nga documentary didto ko kasugat sa pinaka simple nga translation sa word nga heretic...well i won't argue sa authenticity pero history channel man ang nag produce so it must be credible...the word heretic simply means "choice"..

  8. #118
    update lng..

    paging mr. kebot, acts23 and munzter666.. and SioDenz... wala pa mo sa listahan intawn mga brad..

    (Disclaimer: lingaw2x ra ni ato dre ha..)

    Atheist:
    1.) cromagnon
    2.) tarpolano
    3.) Sinyalan


    Religionist:
    1.) tripwire
    2.) seven_segment -- (double membership)
    3.) bungot25
    4.) Tirong-say


    Extremists/Fanatics:
    1.) handsoff241
    2.) vp-rakista
    3.) seven_segment -- (double membership)



    fun camp/mystics:
    1.) miyay
    2.) Angel Sky
    3.) bluedes
    4.) bane



    Crossbreed Thinker:
    1.) LIBER777



    Warshock Christian:
    1.) kebot




    Agnostics:
    1.) chad_tukes
    2.) cassenav



    Heretics:
    1.) Hellblazer 2.1
    2.) joshua259
    3.) regnauld
    4.) Ramini


    Unbelief Party
    1.) butitoy

  9. #119
    kuwan ko blu...

    INFIDEL.

    *anak ni baby ama, long hair chapter. "i come for the free beer"

  10. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    kuwan ko blu...

    INFIDEL.

    *anak ni baby ama, long hair chapter. "i come for the free beer"
    oww new camp.. Infidel! long live!

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