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  1. #101

    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    Of course it adds to the pain of the accuser. But we are not talking about that. We are talking about the ACCUSED!

    That's why the Church does not want media attention. They may not always be the best people to look for the truth but at least they can put pressure on the authorities to pursue the truth. And they claim that they just want to protect the accusers! Get real! They want to protect their asses!

    If they truly care for the abused, they should teach their priests not to play with other people's genitals!
    Last, I couldn't resist. haha...

    Anyway, no, that's not what Tagle's statement is all about. Before one puts pressure on the authorities there must be evidence. You cannot just go around and say put this guy to jail because someone accused him of this. There are already cases that some where just falsely accusing somebody. And I really have to go. Unya na ta mag tiwas. Let's stick to the Tagle issue, everyone.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    @ REDEMPTION ...

    Your point only relates to as one sided and bias outlook . You will end up being a STEREOTYPE in that approach .

    Dont make it look like the RCC does not take care of the abuse allegedly thrown at the victims . Isnt it so ironic ? We have ALLEGED MOLESTERS but we do have VICTIMS ... should it be ALLEGED VICTIMS too ?

    If the media is not the best people to look for then why settle for less ? Do you really think that because kintahay gi hilom ni sa media .... no INVESTIGATION was going on and JUSTICE is not served ? Dont make the media a scapegoat for the excuse of how lame the justice system is when the church are the ones involved.
    I'm not making the media as scapegoat. I'm not singling out the media to be blamed, as the definition of "scapegoat" is. I'm actually heralding the media's role in searching for the truth!

    The media is not the best people to look for the truth but I appreciate their role on applying pressure to authorities who look for the truth. This is not a jab at the justice and legal system as well.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Ratzinger View Post
    Last, I couldn't resist. haha...

    Anyway, no, that's not what Tagle's statement is all about. Before one puts pressure on the authorities there must be evidence. You cannot just go around and say put this guy to jail because someone accused him of this. There are already cases that some where just falsely accusing somebody. And I really have to go. Unya na ta mag tiwas. Let's stick to the Tagle issue, everyone.
    So again, why would he even add that the media (or media attention) adds to the pain of the ACCUSED?? What was his intention??

    Answer na lang when you get back. Lakaw na kay ma late naka.. heheheh.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Ratzinger View Post
    Cardinal Tagle has nothing to do with Team Patay. It's the Bacolod Diocese.
    atot, so pasabot wa syay labot kung unsay stand sa taga bacolod? mura na hinoon ta og poncio pilato ani, hugas kamot ta?
    but lets go back to the essence of his message, di nalang bawsan ang mga pari nga nakasala? Unsa kaha kung ang kanang nangmolestya nga dili pari pwede ra di nalng sad ikiha? butangi.


    naa may mga sala nga pwede ra kaayo pasaylo-on (kanang mga ginagmay nga sala ba), but naa say sala nga di dapat palapason (susama anang pangmolestya, pangrape, etc)..imagina lang ang trauma nga naagi-an sa mga nabiktima sa mga namolestya..di sad na lalim.
    Last edited by Eve's Apple Project; 05-03-2013 at 03:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    atot, so pasabot wa syay labot kung unsay stand sa taga bacolod? mura na hinoon ta og poncio pilato ani, hugas kamot ta?
    but lets go back to the essence of his message, di nalang bawsan ang mga pari nga nakasala? Unsa kaha kung ang kanang nangmolestya nga dili pari pwede ra di nalng sad ikiha? butangi.


    naa may mga sala nga pwede ra kaayo pasaylo-on (kanang mga ginagmay nga sala ba), but naa say sala nga di dapat palapason (susama anang pangmolestya, pangrape, etc)..imagina lang ang trauma nga naagi-an sa mga nabiktima sa mga namolestya..di sad na lalim.
    Taking legal action is not a form of revenge, but a form of justice. As Springfield said, Tagle never said people shouldn't take revenge. However, when he said taking legal action causes pain to the accused and the victim, he wasn't being clear. He left the conclusion out. What about the pain caused by seeing a criminal walk free? He should have talked about that. Or at least made a stand.

    It causes pain to the accused and the victim, so then what?

    Let the victim and accused fight it out in court?
    Let the victim and accused kiss and make up?

    He didn't say so he opened himself up to differing interpretations based on assumptions.

  6. #106
    dapat d mo kiha..kay mora naman pud ka ni revenge anah...bahala nlng si GOD nila heheheh..unsa kakha sa busdakan nko ilang Pajero/Fortuner/BMW/Safari nya bahala na si GOD ?

  7. #107
    These are the same people who make little things so big. For example, the s3x education. It is for the better understanding of ourselves and how to prevent early pregnancy. Main word "Prevent". S3x education does not teach kids abortion.

    But....

    If sila na gani ma-igo, especially heinous crimes like this, they just ask the public to "forgive".. Geez... Nothing but BS...

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    So again, why would he even add that the media (or media attention) adds to the pain of the ACCUSED?? What was his intention??

    Answer na lang when you get back. Lakaw na kay ma late naka.. heheheh.
    haha.. wa ra ma late. Anyway, he also has a point about that because sometimes people have this lynch mob mentality and it can go out of hand. But I am not saying that the accusers should not go to jail if proven guilty. In the whole article he even stated that "you do not hide the problem."
    When I read what he said in the article, I can relate it to Pope John Paul II and his assassin. Pope John Paul II forgave his assassin but the man was still incarcerated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    atot, so pasabot wa syay labot kung unsay stand sa taga bacolod? mura na hinoon ta og poncio pilato ani, hugas kamot ta?
    but lets go back to the essence of his message, di nalang bawsan ang mga pari nga nakasala? Unsa kaha kung ang kanang nangmolestya nga dili pari pwede ra di nalng sad ikiha? butangi.


    naa may mga sala nga pwede ra kaayo pasaylo-on (kanang mga ginagmay nga sala ba), but naa say sala nga di dapat palapason (susama anang pangmolestya, pangrape, etc)..imagina lang ang trauma nga naagi-an sa mga nabiktima sa mga namolestya..di sad na lalim.
    Wala ni ingon si Tagle na dili ipapreso ang mga ng abuso. Basaha palihug ug tarong ang whole article.

  9. #109
    if makasala ka sa simbahan or kaparian nya ikiha ka or ipa priso ka - Justice ang Tawag ana.

    if ang Pari makasala, dapat mapasayloon tah, dapat di tah madali dali ug Judge, dapat sabton natu, dapat di manimalos

    Religion has never been funnier
    Last edited by SioDenz; 05-03-2013 at 09:12 PM.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakizta View Post
    ipray na lang nga di na mousab og molest .
    i hope you are being sarcastic!

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