Ofw bank, bank of the ofw's, for ofw's, run by ofw's,

[EsoyLegaspi]

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TS, para suggestment lang ba, para dili kaayo LIBOG (Confusing), why won't you place nalang your "business plan" diri then mo comment lang mi if in our little opinion mo work ba na sya or dili, or give suggestions for possible loopholes... Dili kay mag sige lang ka ug pasumbingay diri nga nagpa libog ug samot if unsa jud ang imohang gusto buhaton sa imohang OFW bank..... Honestly TS, mura na hinuon ka ug kanang mga networkers nga kusog kaayo modala ug bulatik ug ang mga tubag kay layo ra kaayo sa gipangutana.........

Lodyl,
Thank you for your desire to know the plan. But please, please understand the plan is not for everyone. We are starting a business with ZERO capital. ZERO investments from investors. We capitalize on the richness of our country and our people. There will be a "protocol" we shall observe before the "revelation".

Imagine a scenario where I tell you - I know where the "pot of gold" is? Would you think I would reveal this location without any protocol-conditions. What if I say to you that "there is so much wealth in Cebu"? Don't you think I would be concerned about my safety and my family?

Hence, before we discuss about this "revelation" don't you think we should ask - seek those who are those worthy to know about it? Those who share the same principles and would protect the values we stand for. It was already written by someone that we are the 5th richest country in the WORLD in the previous posts, hence, we should not be concerned how we are going to make money but how we are going to manage our richness - people and resources. The richness is there !!! But how are we going to make ourselves worthy of this richness is another thing. How do we know, the de-vil and de-mons will not grab our righteous inheritance and cause more chaos and misery than where we are right now as a country?? How ?

Do you know where an abundance of "Deuterium" can be found

[EsoyLegaspi]

Wicked people get wicked leaders.

Israelites were scattered by their Boss. They know too well what happens when they transgress the law and what happens when they follow instructions. You can read all those in the "history book" some called the bible.

That is what I see, in our beloved country. Filipinos are scattered all over the world to toil and to find opportunity, and serve foreign masters. I have served foreign masters here and abroad. It pains me when these foreign masters enjoy all the richness of our country - people and resources while they flaunt their wealth. On the other hand, our laborers and workers toil for a few meager pesos, not even enough to provide a decent medical care. It pains me to sign-off on medical-guarantees because the hospital will not admit them. To help them, I had to study the natural healing - herbs available so they can at least heal themselves with simple kitchen solutions.

This need not happen to our people, for a country so rich. 5th richest country in natural resources and I believe we can turn the tide.

Israelites after suffering(holocaust) from other countries now are going back to their country and rebuilding and they have achieved tremendous prosperity compared to what the arab countries have achieved. They are better equipped militarily. Israelites is a military might can defend themselves. Singaporean commando's are trained by the Israel military.

Correct me if you think I am wrong, as what I see is a parallelism of the country of Israel. I believe we can be like Israel(Filipino version)

Now let us look at the helplessness we are in. A 5th richest country in natural resources, yet helpless to defend its territory. The simple and fundamental reason for this is wickedness in each of us. If I follow what is written, I should start by "plucking" my eyes and "cutting" my sinful hands. I should be "cut" from the vine and thrown to the fire. That is how tough the Big-Boss rules are.

We can turn the tide. We can start prepaing for the homecoming of OFW's. We begin with ourselves and declare ourselves worthy to manage our natural resources - people and environment. There is no need for greed, hunger and violence. We need help of good samaritans.

[mckoy_slipstream]

Think, think, think, how could you do business without an office? Is that possible? Do you really need an office ? Without an office means no overhead ? Perhaps you have heard of "Virtual Offices. These are simple clues.... The internet in front of you is the most powerful tool to use.

Think, think think, how would you translate this into another application ? Is a Virtual Bank impossible ?? Think out of the box. Mix and Match different kinds of concepts. How do you use ISO process flow in the "banking system"? Don't use the rules you were taught in school, use your own rules... and define a process flow. Do you really need a bank to have a bank ?? What if you open a bank account in another country ?? are you still covered by Philippine Banking Laws ?? Think Global...keep on firing, we need to make sure we are covered in all areas...

Rules are there, we don't break them, we go around them...

my reason is simple. i do things and plan things on realistic terms and achievable ways. ikaw kaya? baka ikaw lang mag-deposit sa bank na walang office? you can bend rules or go around them, but please, people are not stupid enough to save money on a virtual bank which is that out of the box stuff. you dont even have guts to give an overview of what should be done, and it should be on realistic terms, that will include permits, etc, affiliations, articles of incorporation, bylaws. you speak science fiction. are you a scientologist?

its plainly easy to say this and that, think out of the box, etc. but given the norms and current conditions, are these possible? go around the law? are you trying to make outlaws of people, ofw?

give us an overview, maybe we can change our mind.

lets go back to topic and be realistic. ofw bank, giving and receiving principle? try this kaya? have you ever traded the stock market with no money involved? tawag dyan paper trading. try it. makikita mo na, "wow, okey to ha?, dami ko kita." but that's just virtual income. now, try putting real money on the line, and you'll know what im saying.

people are happy with ideas, but try to convinced them to put real money into it, like ofw bank idea, and you'll know the common thing they'll say, "naa naman gud ko savings sa metrobank, dili man ko angay inganang insurance, my kids have their own trust fund, etc", now these are realistic answers.

you speak of bank. do you even know the banking law? you speak of insurance, life plans, etc, do you know what the requirements for these medium of investments to be setup? or incorporated in such ofw bank?

answer these questions and show me how you think out of the box.

[EsoyLegaspi]

my reason is simple. i do things and plan things on realistic terms and achievable ways. ikaw kaya? baka ikaw lang mag-deposit sa bank na walang office? As I have said over and over you are not required to put in a deposit, that is part of the mechanism of the system


you can bend rules or go around them, but please, people are not stupid enough to save money on a virtual bank which is that out of the box stuff. you dont even have guts to give an overview of what should be done, and it should be on realistic terms, that will include permits, etc, affiliations, articles of incorporation, bylaws. you speak science fiction. are you a scientologist?

No. Science fiction with out basis is not science fiction. What was science fiction 70 years ago is now a reality. Going to the moon. This is tantamount to telling people that they can fly to the moon during the time of Jesus. Laws have boxed creativity.

its plainly easy to say this and that, think out of the box, etc. but given the norms and current conditions, are these possible? go around the law? are you trying to make outlaws of people, ofw?

I admire your structured thinking, you were brought up as a very obedient child. I guess you are a commerce/accounting background by profession.

give us an overview, maybe we can change our mind.

I have replied similar queries to this over and over again. It will come in time, and it is not for all, we will be managing richness of our country and share with those who believe they have a claim to their rightful inheritance to the richness of our country. This is the 5th riches country in the world in natural resources. Many don't even know what we have and possess. When I tell some people of what we have as a country, they tell me what I have is a fake. There is no such thing in the Philippines. Okey..poor Philippines.

lets go back to topic and be realistic. ofw bank, giving and receiving principle? try this kaya? have you ever traded the stock market with no money involved? tawag dyan paper trading. try it. makikita mo na, "wow, okey to ha?, dami ko kita." but that's just virtual income. now, try putting real money on the line, and you'll know what im saying.

You are playing the rules according to those set by others. We shall play of the games by our own rules and principles. While your speak of virtual income, is not the same as the kind of "virtual income" that I have envisioned. Your virtual income - fluctuates with stock prices, my virtual income does not fluctuate in value and is absolute in value. Confusing and mind blowing

people are happy with ideas, but try to convinced them to put real money into it, like ofw bank idea, and you'll know the common thing they'll say, "naa naman gud ko savings sa metrobank, dili man ko angay inganang insurance, my kids have their own trust fund, etc", now these are realistic answers.

Again, there are no need for investors, no need for depositors, but your deposits can grow without depositing. Wow, wow, sounds like a SCAM?

you speak of bank. do you even know the banking law? you speak of insurance, life plans, etc, do you know what the requirements for these medium of investments to be setup? or incorporated in such ofw bank?

Those laws were all man made, made in the Philippines. What if the bank is not in the Philippines, as in Singapore or Hong Kong? Do I need to study all those banking laws Does an OFW-Bank have to be in the Philippines ? What if those who decide to support it put in another country, you also do not need a bank to have a bank. Does Philippine banking laws have rights over deposits of OFW's in Switzerland ?? deposit that have not been deposited ?? wow, truly a scam, scam, scam,...

answer these questions and show me how you think out of the box.

One way to go out of your box is to think of the song of John Lenon - Imagine. Start with a clean slate. Erase everything what you learned and what you were taught. Think of what you want. Assume that their are no barriers, and walls. Assume you have unlimited resources. What is it that you really want and how you would go about it. Let's start from there. What are the necessary elements you need for this were to succeed? We just need to know how to learn by learning.

Assume that you are the "Son of God". What would you ask from Him? I'm not being religious or philosophical but we have to explore what is beyond what we normally think of. Ask for downloads...that is what is called WISDOM.

[lodyl]

Makalingaw man ka TS... You have a GREAT IMAGINATION but in making it into reality, if you can't even give a LITTLE OVERVIEW of what you want, then this idea of yours, OFW BANK will remain an imagination.....

[mckoy_slipstream]

so many answers yet they dont point to the exact thing. sad.. sige na lang ta general idea ani. you started a thread ofw bank, but it seems that you opened a can of worm. and when being asked how to go about this, you'll say that this is not for everyone, that pralala, etc.

You are playing the rules according to those set by others. We shall play of the games by our own rules and principles. While your speak of virtual income, is not the same as the kind of "virtual income" that I have envisioned. Your virtual income - fluctuates with stock prices, my virtual income does not fluctuate in value and is absolute in value. Confusing and mind blowing

im not playing by the rules, i abide by them. try to established your bank kaya with ypur own rules? basin magkita mo ni mayor sanchez sa kulungan?

you seemed not get my suggestion to try trading paper money. i trade stocks and its with real money. i belong to the 1% of traders in this country. so please dont tell me to think out of the box cause we do that everyday.

stocks do fluctuate, cause its subjected to the laws of economics and that's reality.

absolute value. i have $10,000,000,000 in my mind and it will never fluctuate if it stays in my mind. in the real world, it will. just a penny less will change the entire figure.

i asked direct questions yet you keep on diverting. daghan man ka sulti. try kaya to imagine us being your prospective clients? you cant convinced us to support your ideas or your bank if ingana ra imong present namo.

[lodyl]

^^Exactly boss mckoy_slipstream..... lagyo ug taphaw kaayo ug tinubagan... mura man ni sya ug kanang mga MLM/Networkers nga if pangutan-on nimo, kay daghan kaayo ug liko2x ang tinubagan without even answering the question.... tsk tsk tsk.....

Unya, magpalaban dayon ni "God"... paita....

[aenigma143]

mao gani cge lang ko og popcorn mode dri kay until wala pa juy concrete evidence unsaon ni pag materialize.

[lodyl]

mao gani cge lang ko og popcorn mode dri kay until wala pa juy concrete evidence unsaon ni pag materialize.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......... Mayra jud diay nga gitubayan ko ni si TS bai para at least man lang ba, naa pud sya idea sa mga gusto sa iyaha unyang "future clients"...

[aenigma143]

Usa ra akong masulti