What would Jesus do?

[Gjhone]

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thats why im an Atheist. Now, can you show me your GOD?

haha..do you really believe that u have a brain? i guess you do. Can you show it to me? nope, right? unless ur dead.....so if you want to see our God...hang urself! and tell lady jaja to preserve ur brain.

remember: ATTACK THE OPINION not THE PERSON

[hitch22]

like I said circumstantial evidence is admissible in court. look around everything here points to a creator

Epic fail. A theory that explains everything explains nothing. Try again, sir.

[yanong_banikanhon]

A theory that explains everything explains nothing.

OT: Any scientific proof anang imong assertion, bay?

[frend]

just ignore this ky kini na class sa tao ky kuwang ni sa pagtagad. i.ampo lng nato si TS ky wa xa kahibaw sa iya gibuhat ..

@TS nganu imo mn hilabtan ang amo " PAGTOU " na wa mn mi manghilabot sa imo.

ahh mao nag in.ani ni siya ky daghan pangutana sa iya head na wa xa khibaw sa tubag,,tapulan mn gd mg google..lolz

[blanca.florida]

Etsef ba ning uban, ipaclose man ako thread! Naglagot si oka! Mga kuwang kuwang.

[ulyssa_marie]

gaga, i understand that u want to "hear the opinions of others".



But telling everyone that "ur beliefs are foolish!" .. and mocking them -- well... that doesn't make this a healthy discussion after all.

Rather an opportunity to have those who have opposing beliefs come together and indulge in a "ur stupid-er! ur stupid-est!" competition.




if u atheists dont believe in a God.. then why bother talking about it? and those who believe in a God.. must you prove it? Isnt ur faith enough? this whole conversation is "epic fail" as it is.

[braveheart]

gaga, i understand that u want to "hear the opinions of others".



But telling everyone that "ur beliefs are foolish!" .. and mocking them -- well... that doesn't make this a healthy discussion after all.

Rather an opportunity to have those who have opposing beliefs come together and indulge in a "ur stupid-er! ur stupid-est!" competition.




if u atheists dont believe in a God.. then why bother talking about it? and those who believe in a God.. must you prove it? Isnt ur faith enough? this whole conversation is "epic fail" as it is.

mao!.. kinahanglan pa jud diay ipanabi na?.. if ur atheist dha den go! walay nay boot unsa ka dha.... sorry to say but pina M ra kaau ka mark!..

[kimleeKINO_choi]

kini man gud gibuhat sa TS kompanya ni haron pagdaot sa Christianity, obvious kaayo ang reason oi.

ang katawonon lang kay ang TS failed to see the fallacy of his/her intention. poro ra negative nga butang ang iyang gi pang post, tanang bati gi blame sa ginoo pero what about mga nindot nga mga butang nga nahitabo sa kalibotan? wa jud niya gi post. so klaro pa sa hayag sa adlaw nga HATER ning si TS, what a pity.

Dili lang Ginoo oie iya cge tirahan pati ang Government. Hilig kaayog "G" sya sah? mao cgro iya handle floriGaGa.

OnT: All we have to do is to have FAITH in him.
I have a heavy emotional baggage now but I know sooner or later this will pass. US believers in Christ continue to trust him despite these chaotic world b/c we know these are only obstacles for us to see the greater view in his time.

[denkyo]

That gay is a weak atheist..........

Don't try to force people here what you believe coz lot of us here is Christians..mangugat ka nlng di gihapon ka kadaog..

[koralstratz]

To: All ATHEISTS and THEISTS alike…..

First of, please DO NOT bite me nor HATE me for being off topic, I just need to share to you guys a life story of a certain pious Christian wife and her very vocal persuasive Atheist husband…..just be silent and read this please,,,after which you can either keep it in you or disregard it as trash..But do not be mad at me for sharing this ‘coz I won’t be responding back to any comments may it be positive or negative.


Elisabeth Leseur (October 16, 1866–May 3, 1914)

Marriage and Challenge of Faith

Elisabeth was born in Paris to a wealthy bourgeois French family of Corsican descent. She met Félix Leseur (1861–1950), also from an affluent, Catholic family in 1887. Shortly before they married on July 31, 1889, Elisabeth discovered that Félix was no longer a practicing Catholic.

Though he continued to practice medicine, Dr. Félix Leseur and soon became well known as the editor of an anti-clerical, atheistic newspaper in Paris. Despite his pledge to respect Elisabeth's religious beliefs, as his hatred of the Catholic faith grew he soon began to question, undermine, and ridicule Elisabeth's faith.

In his memoirs, Félix describes how his efforts to "enlighten" Elisabeth nearly succeeded. He had persuaded Elisabeth to read Ernest Renan's Life of Jesus with the expectation that it would finally shatter her last remaining loyalties to Catholicism. Instead, he records that she was "struck by the poverty of substance" on which the arguments were based and was inspired to devote herself to her own religious education.

Soon, their home was filled with two libraries. One, a library devoted to the justifications of atheism and the second to the lives of the saints and the intellectual arguments in favor of Christ and Catholic Church. Félix was frustrated to discover that his challenges to her faith had actually led her to become not only more grounded in her beliefs, but more fervent and determined to become holy.

Elisabeth's Suffering and Prophecy

The couple's religious differences became a burden on their relationship, especially for Elisabeth, who wrote in her journal of the "bitter suffering" she experienced at "hearing my faith and spiritual things mocked at, attacked and criticized" by her husband and their friends during their many evening gatherings. In addition to this strain, they were burdened with the inability to have children and Elisabeth was plagued with a constant battle of physical illnesses. As made explicit in her diaries, Elisabeth endured all of these sufferings with a firm conviction that "suffering is the highest form of action, the highest expression of the wonderful Communion of Saints, and that in suffering one is sure not to make mistakes (as in action, sometimes) — sure to be useful to others and to the great causes that one longs to serve."

Two years before her death, Elisabeth and Felix were conversing about what each would do after the other had died, and at this point she insisted that "I am absolutely certain that when you return to God, you will not stop on the way because you never do things by halves.... You will some day become a priest." To this he responded: "Elizabeth, you know my sentiments. I've sworn hatred of God, I shall live in the hatred and I shall die in it."

During the last two years of her life, as she was dying of breast cancer, Félix could not help but be impressed by the depth of strength she drew from her spirituality: "When I saw how ill she was, and how she endured with equanimity of temper a complaint that generally provokes much hypochondria, impatience and ill-humor, I was struck to see how her soul had so great a command of itself and of her body; and knowing that she drew this tremendous strength from her convictions, I ceased to attack them."

Elisabeth's Secret Life and Its Fruits

Following her death from cancer in 1914, Félix discovered in her papers a note directed to him: "In 1905, I asked almighty God to send me sufficient sufferings to purchase your soul. On the day that I die, the price will have been paid. Greater love than this no woman has than she who lay down her life for her husband."

Dr. Leseur dismissed this as the fancies of a pious woman. Nonetheless, he was also amazed to discover that Elisabeth's spiritual efforts had included a huge number of correspondences with people from all walks of life of which he had previously been unaware. During her last few days, many of these unknown people had come to visit and a much larger throng had attended her wake prior to the funeral. So many that Félix was asked by one priest "who was this woman? We have never seen such a funeral before."

Following the funeral, Félix decided to write a book against the miracles of Lourdes. Instead, when visiting Lourdes and looking upon a statue of Mary and reflecting on the "celestial beauty" of his wife's soul he realized that "she had accepted her suffering and offered it...chiefly for my conversion." In perceiving her life as an icon of Christ, who also suffered for his personal salvation, Felix's confidence in atheism crumbled. He returned to the Catholic faith he had been taught as a child and began to diligently study his wife's spiritual writings, which she had begun in 1899 until her death.

Legacy

Félix subsequently published his wife's journal, and in fall of 1919 became a Dominican novice. He was ordained in 1923 and spent much of his remaining twenty seven years publicly speaking about his wife's spiritual writings. He was instrumental in opening the cause for Elisabeth's beatification as a saint.

In reflecting on his wife's life, Félix recalled that she once wrote a book of her younger sister the epigram "Every soul that uplifts itself uplifts the world." Commenting on this, Félix added, "In that profound thought she defined herself."

In the year 1924, Fulton J. Sheen, who would later become an arch-bishop and popular American television and radio figure, made a retreat under the direction of Fr. Leseur. During many hours of spiritual direction, Sheen learned of the life of Elisabeth and the conversion of Félix. Sheen subsequently repeated this conversion story in many of his presentations, in particular in regard to the role that spouses play in the sanctification of each other.

In commenting on the life of Elisabeth Leseur, Dr. Robin Mass says, "This was a life that completely changed another life — perhaps many lives — because it was willing to open itself fully to the possibility that in her and through her own pain and loss, God could do the loving."