MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

[tootskie]

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i know this is kinda ot but i was just thinking,what if mawagtang gyud si arroyo sa malacanang?who's going to seat?another coup d'etat?human unsaon na man man ang reforms na nasugdan?do we really think na mawah gyud ang jueteng pag bago na molingkod?or is it just going to be a case of lahi na pud ang makinabang?

am not pro gloria but i do approve sa changes na ginahimo nya sa beaureaucracy(tama spelling?) and y dont we just support the small lady and move on.....wah tay asenso ani oi,daghan au power hungry sa govt.mao ra man gihapon istoryaha if lain na molingkod sa malakanyang.it just is going to be a case of lahi na ang makinabang...

[dawn runner]

You dont want to suffer, do you? I am not suggesting anything but if Arroyo will be out of power, legally or illegally, she deserved it. We as a people dont deserve to suffer a government which is unjust, oppressive and incompetent.

[FK]

wala pa ko kadungog sa alleged original. only the spliced.

pero nabantayan nako sa spliced kay naa mag cross nga tubag.

kana mo istorya ka dayon wala pa gani mahoman mo tubag na ang pikas.

pero ang ako jud kahibugngan ngano nangotana si GMA kong pwede ba niya ma-delay ang canvassing sa senators.

[GlassMoon]

Basing on this topic, how would we know which is the real one? Better yet, how would we know if these things aren't fabricated?

As an audio recording engineer, those things are so easy to make if you only know how.

And why, in the name of the dancing papaya, after a year did this thing come out now?

[blade101]

I agree! Been working with audio files and transcribing them for almost 3 years. it's pretty easy to manipulate these files given the right equipment. also, transcribing these files can sometimes be subject to who does the transcribing.

[FK]

right timing.

yep we will never know kong asa ang original.

pero ang ako jud gikahibogngan ngano ni hangyo si GMA nga pwede ba daw i-delay ang canvassing sa senators. kani nga istorya ni exist in both the alleged fake and original copies.

and even malacañang admitted that it was indeed GMA. so possibly ang iya ka istorya ra ang gi-edit.

[dawn runner]

I agree! Been working with audio files and transcribing them for almost 3 years. it's pretty easy to manipulate these files given the right equipment. also, transcribing these files can sometimes be subject to who does the transcribing.

Well, palace officials admit its GMAs voice. So theres no question about that. What would be more important to us is the contents.

There are telling points there.

What exactly does Mike Arroyo mean when he said, "Tulungan natin si Barbers." What do you mean by "tulungan." I dont think tulungan refers to campaigning because its already the canvassing of the votes.

Therefore tulungan means something fishy. Padding the votes comes to my mind.

[blade101]

Well, palace officials admit its GMAs voice. So theres no question about that. What would be more important to us is the contents.

There are telling points there.

What exactly does Mike Arroyo mean when he said, "Tulungan natin si Barbers." What do you mean by "tulungan." I dont think tulungan refers to campaigning because its already the canvassing of the votes.

Therefore tulungan means something fishy. Padding the votes comes to my mind.

so it is GMA's voice. but think of this, GMA's voice is the easiest to get. she has been giving many speeches and talks. it would be quite easy to get a copy of her voice and splice it so it would mean a different thing. add some other shmoe's voice and viola! you have a conversation that never really took place.

tulungan could also mean help as in help. they were talking about an annulment di ba? it could be that they're referring to that.

[dawn runner]

Señor Blade, i think there is no point debating about the voice. Palace officials said its GMAs voice. They also admit that they have the original and that they even claim there is a "spliced" copy. If they say they have the original, then they admit that such tape and conversation took place.

This evidence is so incriminating.

About tulungan, what I know that Biazon's lead of 200,000 suddenly shrink to 10,000 votes after the canvassing of the Lanao del Sur votes.

[blade101]

Señor Blade, i think there is no point debating about the voice. Palace officials said its GMAs voice. They also admit that they have the original and that they even claim there is a "spliced" copy. If they say they have the original, then they admit that such tape and conversation took place.

This evidence is so incriminating.

About tulungan, what I know that Biazon's lead of 200,000 suddenly shrink to 10,000 votes after the canvassing of the Lanao del Sur votes.

hehehehehe! I'm just a poor shmoe trying to earn a buck here. however I do detect a few flaws in your reasoning.

1) they admit having the "original" and a "spliced" copy. now why would anyone want to splice an original copy of the recording? you splice something because you have something to hide right? but you will also make it seem that the spliced one is the original copy para mu tu-o ang mga tao that something "fishy" is going on. but in this case the government admitted that there is an original and spliced copy.therefore someone else beside the government got hold of this conversation,spliced it to serve their purpose and released it to the masses. so who would benefit in this scenario?

2)how can you connect a simple conversation to the loss of votes of a particular candidate. what you are saying is pure speculation.