CBCP and the CONDOM issues

[sharkey360]

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The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines wants the government to ban commercial advertisements pushing the sale of condoms. Not only is that an impossible proposition, that is also a rather malicious position to take.

The bishops know very well the government cannot ban such commercials. To do so is not only illegal, it is also unconstitutional and undemocratic. Still the bishops went ahead and made the demand anyway.

Why? Because they calculated that once government refuses to ban such commercials, it promptly becomes a convenient scapegoat for anything and everything the bishops can associate with condoms. And that reeks of malice.

The world is a marketplace of ideas. If condoms sell, it is not the fault of commercials. If condoms are freely accepted, it is not the fault of government. There can only be one reason for such public acceptance -- the bishops have failed to get their message about condoms across.

Yet, even as the bishops are unwilling to accept any blame, they are on the other hand only too eager to pass on the blame to others. That, we believe, is taking the easy way out. As advocates of soul-searching, the bishops abhor the idea of doing any soul-searching themselves.

Maybe the bishops are afraid any soul-searching on their part will reveal the reason why they have lost so much credibility over the years. When people say one thing then do another, it does not take too long before their credibility flies out the window.

Simply put, the bishops can no longer connect. They have lost focus of their one true mission and have become too detached from their flock. It is no longer necessary to enumerate here the times they have strayed. Suffice it to say the faithful are mum, but they keep score.

On the subject of condoms, for instance, the bishops have quite a mouthful to say. From sickness to *** to the kitchen sink, they have thrown everything against the condom. And guess what? They are probably right in many of those issues.

But that is not the problem. Being right and to be believed as being right are two entirely different things. The food and the food server must both appeal to the customer. The pancit may look good, but if the waiter smiles with "kamunggay" in his teeth, then goodbye.

Source - EDITORIAL - If condoms sell, it is not the fault of the ads | The Freeman >> The Freeman Sections >> Freeman Opinion

[kit_cebu]

ouchies here....

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/2010030...-d6cd5cf.html+

Palace exec to bishops: Don’t dictate on condom use

"Huwag naman magdikta, hayaan ang tao pumili ng iba-ibang pamamaraan. Give the people a choice, di yung sasabihin ito lang gawin mo. Dictatorship yun (Don't dictate. Give the people a chance to choose, otherwise that would be dictatorship)," Planas said in an interview on dzXL radio.

[kit_cebu]

hey bishops... shove this statement in your @&$...

Kailangan talaga ang family planning. Di sinasabing mag-abort ka, sinasabing planuhin mo (Family planning is needed here. We are not encouraging abortion, we are encouraging family planning)," she said.

[[PROTOTYPE]]

if condoms and contraceptives are consented by the church, it's like saying:

*premarital *** is OK
*Lust is OK
*you can have *** anytime
*marriage is not happy without so much ***

the essence of marriage is the CHILDREN's growth, development, and maturity into good citizens of our country, not just ***

[[PROTOTYPE]]

basin ug gusto nila molobo ang population, modaghan ang maglisod. kay sa tan-aw nila, it is during these times, times nga naglisod ang tao, nga mangdool sa ginoo. to create a hopeless world, a restless world, then create a scene na no one can lift you up but God and God alone.

Ang ako lang ba, di man ingon ana ang ginoo. Tana dili nila ipackage na ingon ana.

Sige sila ug discourage og over spending, extravagance, ginadiscourage ang pagpalimus ug pagsigeg pangayo sa isig usa ka tao. And yet, milliones ang ila gipanghimo na simbahan, especialy sa st. therese lahug, more than 30 million! sound system palang halang half million na. almost every simba double collection. Tana we should practice what we preach.

blame the Diocesans. Congregations do not practice such.

[[PROTOTYPE]]

lisud sahai katuuhan ang mga archbishops kai wa man gud sila ka-experience regarding ani..

of course! ikaw ba kuno ang walay gawas2x during your seminary days?

it's a good thing SVD let's the students go outside once a week. no wonder their priests are so smart.

[peewee_toot]

if condoms and contraceptives are consented by the church, it's like saying:

*premarital *** is OK
*Lust is OK
*you can have *** anytime
*marriage is not happy without so much ***

the essence of marriage is the CHILDREN's growth, development, and maturity into good citizens of our country, not just ***

that's why mao ni ang dapat i-focus sa church. dili ky ang paggamit sa condom or any contraceptives...

people have choices, dapat mo tabang lng ang church kng unsay sakto. dili ky sila mismo ang magbuot sa tao...

[DeathFox]

WTF?! Those idiots arent promoting safe-***! They are wasting our tax-money on promoting ***!!! I just saw the news on how they are distributing this, and those idiots are also giving away lollipops!!!
Darn it, lollipop + condom + couple = horny couple.

[peewee_toot]

^^bitaw2x. ngano naa kahay lollipop sah?

[batigol192002]

- In his speech, the governor declared that as a Catholic and as a matter of conscience, he regarded abortion as "sinful." But this, he insisted, was his "private" view as an "obedient" Catholic raised in the "pre-Vatican II" church. As a politician and public official, however, Cuomo said, he was not obliged to work for laws that reflected Catholic "dogmas," citing among other examples the fact that the bishops themselves no longer sought through laws to oblige non-Catholics to observe church teachings on birth control. While acknowledging that abortion is a graver moral issue than contraception, Cuomo further argued that it would be both wrong and impractical to seek laws restricting abortion. He gave two reasons. First, such laws would oblige non-Catholics and Catholics who disagree with the church's teachings on abortion, thereby violating their religious freedom: "We know that the price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that they might some day force theirs on us." Second, since there is no public consensus in support of antiabortion legislation, any efforts to pass such laws would be divisive and unenforceable: "The values derived from religious belief will not--and should not--be accepted as part of the public morality unless they are shared by the pluralistic community at large, by consensus."

-Mario Coumo - New York Gov