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[uchihacirxe]

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"What year is this you referring to? With respect to PowerBuilder? Observed to outperform many of other competing application? Damnshit! I spend almost entire of my night to compare this to LINQ which Visual Studio introduced me. It doesn’t even contain single/tiny features that it replaces the new Visual Studio 2008, how much more in upcoming Visual Studio 2010."

Thanks for the research time. Powerscript has long before included embedding SQL statements in the script. You can do SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE etc. you can also wrap database functions or single-value-return stored procedures. LINQ only added many features to what was there before its conception. Well, I am not surprised, this is not the only time Microsoft "borrow ideas".

"The datawindow you mentioned here is an oldschool style. I agree that it someway it outperforms the features of Visual Studio way back a decade of years ago, but if you are referring as of this year. Man, get Visual Studio and start working with LINQ, new features of DataBinding, Database Connectivity not only across the network but thru public sites, and pretty more to talk about."

Whoa, this will be a case of an old man beating a young man. Try this: Datawindow.Net and see how it compares.

"Now let me ask you one thing, when was the last time these native DB’s (Company) you mentioned released new supports for PowerBuilder Developers?"

I'm using Powerbuilder 10.5 right now:

These are the native support:


Deployment:

[uchihacirxe]

hope its not PB

Yeah. Choose the right tool. Choose ...ehem...

[bluedes]

Yeah. Choose the right tool. Choose ...ehem...

ang init nang labanan ditow..

bitaw, nice post on that powerbuilder..

can it scale to large multiple access? or is it mostly limited to small-to-medium and personal databases? or am I getting this right?? PB is mostly for front end, and you can have really hard-core multi-tiered database backend..


msaccess has native jet engine support for small-to-medium and personal databases.. i think ana pud tingale ang PB..

[MarkCuering]

Whoa, this will be a case of an old man beating a young man. Try this DataWindow .NET - 4GL RAD Enterprise Application Development and Design Software Program - Sybase Inc Datawindow.Net and see how it compares.

from the link you give me it mentioned:

New with version 2.5, DataWindow .NET provides a set of plug-ins that enable developers to create their DataWindows inside of Visual Studio .NET without ever having to leave the IDE. And, with a new Web services DataWindow, you can easily access, manipulate and display data from Web services.

pakshit... that isn't PowerBuilder... it is another tool develop by sybase...which runs on Visual Studio as plugins, added on the TOOLBOX. this isn't the native datawindow in Powerbuilder which I was talking previously...it already runs on the Visual Studio. Can't you read? Powerbuilder as an IDE not the same when Powerbuilder in Visual Studio, if you read my post above the IDE is already new. no more native IDE from previous version PowerBuilder. And this is no longer related to PowerBuilder, its already a PLUGIN, which I already explained about plugins.

check the system requirements here: http://www.sybase.com/products/model...specifications

Now I'm confused how knowledgeable you are on the PowerBuilder and to the rest of Sybase tools, but I can see that you are less knowledgeable of what Microsoft provides nowadays, what Oracle, IBM, CISCO, NOVELL, INTEL, successful OPENSOURCE products added /provide for Visual Studio. Now I can see a young man dying from its ignorance! If the word you uttered here worth a penny for PowerBuilder, you could already been a BILLIONAIRE.

From the site:

As of March 2009, the latest release of PowerBuilder is version 11.5 [2]. It includes DataWindow.NET, which is a .NET-enabled version of PB's DataWindow control. It also includes ASP.NET 2.0 Web Forms application capability.

but you are using, Powerbuilder 10.5. Who cares anyway, if it works on old PowerBuilder.just hope you are telling lies here

The diagram you show is not surprisingly new to me... no matter where you deploy your application still there is a specific context but that is not part of PowerBuilder LOLxx!!! If they make use of ADO.NET to communicate, Webservices, Desktop Application, all at once without rewriting codes, it’s not the Powerbuilder who made it…it composes with various architectures and an effort of different vendors, That makes it deployable in different areas… MY GOODNESS! Am I really talking to a professional here?

check also WCF, WPF, with BIDS (Business Intelligence Development Studio).. I think it is more advance than what you think about DataWindow, but not PowerBuilder geeezzzzz… I don’t know if you are just bluffing here, but to tell you, don’t deliver any bias understanding of what PowerBuilder can have that outperforms any other tools. Accept it, PowerBuilder is dead! And trying to come back from its fruitful days, I’m not against on this PB… coz as soon as I will saw any advantages, over our existing technology we have, I’ll push everyone here to get and work on it. But it is merely impossible, it already runs on Visual Studio, if there are cool plugins, such as DataWindow (that already work on VS), it will also be accessible...

[MarkCuering]

@uchihacirxe,

For your own sake, please I beg you to see Business Intelligence Development Studio, just now I check on the youtube, it was there... check google images for the IDE… if you can find some expert in your office who can work on DataWindow, Ask him to record it, post it on youtube, from construction of database to User Interface design, then I show you how I will make it on BIDS and on Visual Studio. This is the only way we can compare. It’s up to you to set some situation, it’s up to you to provide database, what will I gonna do is just to show you how will I make it in my own.

[bluedes]

ang init nang labanan..

unsa ni, tech showdown? panindotay ug RAD tools? pamahalay?

notepad lng ako oi, pero nice pud ang VIM.. kadaghan ra nangopya sa features sa VIM sa mga text-editors karon.. hehe

[MarkCuering]

It is always good to be true; I think this is the only way to prove that what I'm posting here is factual. I just hope that uchihacirxe and kamsky will not take this an egotistical challenge but an opportunity to take lil glance on the other side.


If they are stable and having excellent incomes on their own surface, then the tools they have is greater and essential than anybody else can provide. Mag-unsa man na ang tools kung gutom gihapon ang pamilya.

[bluedes]

It is always good to be true; I think this is the only way to prove that what I'm posting here is factual. I just hope that uchihacirxe and kamsky will not take this an egotistical challenge but an opportunity to take lil glance on the other side.


If they are stable and having excellent incomes on their own surface, then the tools they have is greater and essential than anybody else can provide. Mag-unsa man na ang tools kung gutom gihapon ang pamilya.

point taken..

but the issue here is not about kung gutumon ang pamilya.. lisod na gud kung sagulan pa ug other factors.. might as well include the entire world and everything else..

anyway.. having stable or excellent incomes on their own surface is a thing to consider.. its a balance.. sometimes, magkatawa na lng ko sa akong self sauna na "young" pa ko..

[MarkCuering]

pila na diay imo edad? ^___^ basta ako young pa ko ^_________^

[bluedes]

pila na diay imo edad? ^___^ basta ako young pa ko ^_________^

young at heart pa sab ko oi..

back then, i was on the opposite side of the fence.. very idealistic about the proper method of programming kuno.. pero nakasweldo pud ta ug dako jud kaayo.. like 10x sweldo sa parents combined pa gani..

pero karon, its a balance.. and i just enjoy what i'm doing whether dako ang sweldo or dili na kaau (or even if just making your own personal pet projects)..
it depends on your economic situation i guess..