MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[eezychair]

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@ezzychair. hmm..i dunno about that.
pero kadtong panahon ni erap nga all-out-war sa mindanao, niana tong sundalo nga naka-stationed dapit sa municipal hall nga gnahan dw ang mga muslims nga maila jd ang mindanao ky ila man gyud dw na ug wlay nakasakop ana tungod nila...

Tinuod man nga wala juy naka 'colonize' sa mindanao. Not the spaniards, nor the Americans. Di ba mao na na.imbento ang 45 caliber pistol tungod sa mga 'moro' nga lisod kaayo tumbahon. Pero ang ilang sense of entitlement, murag out of place na karong mga panahona. Tungod lang sa ilang pagka 'militant', murag dili sila gusto nga ma.under sa lain nga balaod gawas sa ilang tinuohan. Mas mu.dis.respect sila sa balaod nga hinimo sa gobyerno kaysa sa ma.compromiso ilang tinu.uhan. Now, unsaon man nato pag.abot ug agreement ug ingon ana ang position nila? Wala nila respeta.a ang agreement sa gobyerno with MNLF (kay failed experiment daw) so naghimo sila ug lain with MILF. Ug sila mismo naglibog, unsa nalang kaha ta? Naa pay gobyerno sad nga iyahay lang ug papel. Saon nalang...

[balipseyev]

Kung magka gyera, asa mana mangayug relief goods ng mga muklo, sa mga kristyano man gihapon... Asa mana sila tong gi gyera sila ni Erap, hurot naman unta ng mga animal.... Karun nigara nasad....

[naxi85]

cguro, bisan unsa pa na nga klase nga agreement dinha, di gihapon na mahilom ky iyahay man sila ug objectives. what if mu-demand napud ng mnlf ron, unsaon na lang. nya wa ta kblo mghimo na sad ng uban ug laing faction, den another demand npud. hahah. way kahuman ui.

[eezychair]

Peace Prospects in Moroland
A deal that requires leadership to avoid the mistakes of the past.

Review & Outlook: Peace Prospects in Moroland - WSJ.com

"Once again, the Philippines is left to hope that Monday's deal doesn't represent the triumph of hope over experience. "

Sige ta ug pangandoy ug peace, pero based on history and experience, makab.ot kaha ni? Sakto na ba kaha ang 'leadership' nga naa ron?

[MetalManiac]

Gov’t, MILF disagree on disarming rebels

While the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) has announced that its members will not lay down arms before the peace agreement is concluded, the government on Tuesday maintained that all weapons should be decommissioned even before the implementation of the peace pact.

“The normalization process will be done in phases and we will see gradual and steady decommissioning taking place. Thus, even before the implementation of the agreement, arms will be put beyond use,” Presidential Adviser on Peace Process Teresita Deles said.

But Mohagher Iqbal, the chairman of the peace-negotiating panel of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), said on Monday that his group would not lay down its weapons until a final peace accord is in place.

The laying down of arms is in the last stage of the implementation of the agreement.

The Framework Agreement signed on Monday by the government and the MILF provides that the latter will “undertake a graduated program for decommissioning of its forces so that they are put beyond use.” In turn, the government agreed to “a phased and gradual” transfer of law enforcement functions from the Armed Forces of the Philippines to a Bangsamoro police force.

“Equally important, both sides have already agreed to work in partnership to reduce and control firearms in the conflict-affected area without exception and we intend to implement it as soon as is feasible,” Deles said.


Of course, we will also need to make sure that in the process, we are building a highly effective and professional police force in the Bangsamoro for the maintenance of domestic law and order under the ambit of Philippine national security,” she added.

Iqbal, after the signing of the framework agreement, said that his group will wait for the agreement to take force before laying down arms.

He said that when they signed the deal, both parties have their respective obligations to adhere to.

“We cannot force the government not to comply with their requirements in the same way that you cannot force us. So it’s a positive action towards the fulfillment of the agreement,” he said.

“You know, it’s a reality that from a pure liberation organization using military means to something—engaging in the negotiations and then after that we sign something, there has to be some transformation even including arms,” he added.

However, Iqbal did not elaborate on the decommissioning process, saying that it will be discussed in their next meeting.

“We only used the term decommissioning—beyond use. But I am not at liberty to discuss that because we will discuss that,” he said.

Iqbal expressed confidence that should be problems regarding the implementation of a ceasefire, the group can easily address it.

“We have several mechanisms to address the issue. We have the ceasefire committee, we have the international monitoring team, etcetera,” he told reporters.

“We have a reliable partner in [President Benigno] Aquino [3rd]. We want to finish the deal before his term ends for practical reasons,” he added.


Gov


mao na ni ron, di lagi mosugot nang milf nga ipart ways sila sa ilang mga asawa.....

[eezychair]

“We have a reliable partner in [President Benigno] Aquino [3rd]. We want to finish the deal before his term ends for practical reasons,” he added.

Gov

mao na ni ron, di lagi mosugot nang milf nga ipart ways sila sa ilang mga asawa.....

For someone who has no qualms violating the constitution, that would be reliable indeed.

[balipseyev]

ows? Generalization? In Mindanao dyud? I respect your opinion but I beg to disagree. Mas maayo pa nga in Mindanao, taking their lands is like taking their lives. Dili tanan kinabuhi didto ga-depend sa pusil.

In ani ra na, halimbawa naa kay ihatag nya imu papilion, say sakyanan ug pusil, kagara tao sa amoang lugar pilion gyud ng pusil labaw na if Long Arm na... Sus mag luha2x gyud ang mata ana sa kalipay..

[MetalManiac]

di gyud ni magmalampuson ang peace process kay nawa sa passing si misuari. mao ni magda og lawgaw ani.

[i_the_mighty]

di gyud ni magmalampuson ang peace process kay nawa sa passing si misuari. mao ni magda og lawgaw ani.

maskin pa siguro bro og wa gaapil2 si Misuari. Ang pangutana man gud, kung buhian sa mga rebelde ila armas, unsa man ila panginabuhi? Butang ta sila nay mahimong Bangsamoro Police Forces, manunod nana tanang kauban nila, mag police nana silang tanan. Di gihapon mahimutang ang mga namuyo dihang mga dapita.

Ang ako lang pud basin magamit ra sad gihapon nila ning paagi para managhan sila. Kana kay "legal" na ilang paghimo og kaugalingong pwersa, naa na na silay ikabuga puhon og mulikoy na sad ila utok nga makuha na nila ilang "true target". Kani bana2 ra man, pero posible man mao akong gikahadlukan.

[MetalManiac]

sakto ka ana imo pangagpas bro. ako sad, murag di gyud ko mutoo nga magtinarong ni sila og mosunod sa gobyerno nga igive up usa nila ilaha mga armas . ambot kaha ,murag hanap pa sa dyes panas nga motuman ning mga moklo.