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  1. #1051

    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    I am not diverting the issue, im simply stressing out your answer.

    Where we came from? my answer, we came from Simplicity to Complexity. Not Complexity to Simplicity.

    You want me to explain this? or do you get the idea?

    Ok, please don't explain the Complex.
    Can you explain the Simplicity? Was it a hot dense energy?

    Where does the Simplicity come from?
    Or how does it came to be?

  2. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    uy, convert, i miss your bananas. hahaha.

    Ikay galibog convert, kay ang 3 become 1, kung minus 1 = kanta sa Spice Girls. 2 become 1, haha.oops OT, my bad.

    So dili diay ang God the Father ang Omnipresent? dili ang Son? kung dili ang Spirit?

    abi nako sila tulo kay usa ra? nganung ang Spirito raman ang omnipresent? sila ta tulo?

    ikay galibog Convert.

    Bespren ko nga Monkey Convert, naa ka edibens / medical record sa mental hospital nga "this Forum is full of Crazy People?" wahahaha
    Hehehe.. ka alige.. ako na nuon galibog ani ron nga ikaw ra daghan pangutana. lol as per experience since SnO days dili jud ni maghuman ning ingani. ang2x man pod mag theology 101 ta diri para sa mga libog.

    abi kay crazy mental hospital na diay? tubaga sa to ang pangutana ni redhorse o.

  3. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Ok, please don't explain the Complex.
    Can you explain the Simplicity? Was it a hot dense energy?

    Where does the Simplicity come from?
    Or how does it came to be?
    Complexity arises from simplicity all the time. The Mandelbrot set is an example (Dewey 1996). Real-life examples include the following: A pan of water with heat applied uniformly to its bottom will develop convection currents that are more complex than the still water; complex hurricanes arise from similar principles; complex planetary ring systems arise from simple laws of gravitation; complex ant nests arise from simple behaviors; and complex organisms arise from simpler seeds and embryos.

    Was is a hot dense energy? - It is the basic structure of the SUN with its core containing Hot, Dense, Energy Generation Via Fusion, with a Density and Temperature that decrease from Center Outward.


    Where does the Simplicity come from? - it comes from basic functions of matter, that evolves into something complex. Like the formation of a star.
    Astronomers witness a star being born Check the link.

    Now my turn to ask, is your GOD still busy making STARS up until now?
    Last edited by orcgod; 06-25-2010 at 02:54 PM.

  4. #1054
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Hehehe.. ka alige.. ako na nuon galibog ani ron nga ikaw ra daghan pangutana. lol as per experience since SnO days dili jud ni maghuman ning ingani. ang2x man pod mag theology 101 ta diri para sa mga libog.

    abi kay crazy mental hospital na diay? tubaga sa to ang pangutana ni redhorse o.
    haha, ikaw tubag sako panguta. tubaga sa. ayaw likay convert.

    I repeat.So dili diay ang God the Father ang Omnipresent? dili ang Son? kung dili ang Spirit?

    abi nako sila tulo kay usa ra? nganung ang Spirito raman ang omnipresent? sila ta tulo?

    natubag na nako ang pangutana ni extra strong. ikaw, asa naman imong tubag sako pangutana?
    Last edited by orcgod; 06-25-2010 at 02:52 PM.

  5. #1055
    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Talking about cherry-picking, were you not also cherry-picking on the theories from the scientists?
    If a science book, full of scientific theories, was found out that one theory is invalid, are you going to discard the book as unreliable?

    If you believe in evolution and the Christian faith, at which time did god decided that we were "Human enough" to be accepted into heaven?
    The time when God gave man spirit and intelligence to dominate the entire species.
    Sorry I can't give you the exact time when since I'm not a paleontologist.

    We know to the fact that we are unique creature, since we can think.
    A 3-month old baby is much clever than a 100yr old tortoise.
    We have a conscience, we know what is right and wrong.
    We can do whatever we want, even if its beyond our animal instinct.

    No other animal in the planet can do that.

    The next time go to the bathroom, watch yourself in the mirror and ask: Why am I here in the first place?
    Cherry picking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    It is selecting among a choices that exist together(e.g. parts of a book, cherries in the field). Replacing something old with a NEW much improved option is not cherry picking.

    Anyway, your answer is kind of unsatisfying. Its very subjective and not definite. Perhaps you could raise this question with your church group(if any) and share with us their insights.

  6. #1056
    BIBLE. no need to explain.

  7. #1057
    paging, paging, Necrotic Freak and Redhorse -tubaga sad akong pangutana uy. hehe, basin busy pamo utingkay sa bibliya ha, ehehehehehe. for the mean time while waiting, mu beauty rest sako diri ha, kay 2:30 na sa kadlawon diri sa pikas corner sa kalibutan. ill answer your reply tomorrow.

  8. #1058
    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    haha, ikaw tubag sako panguta. tubaga sa. ayaw likay convert.

    I repeat.So dili diay ang God the Father ang Omnipresent? dili ang Son? kung dili ang Spirit?

    abi nako sila tulo kay usa ra? nganung ang Spirito raman ang omnipresent? sila ta tulo?

    natubag na nako ang pangutana ni extra strong. ikaw, asa naman imong tubag sako pangutana?
    naahh. nanggot.. naglibog jud diay. hahahah.. mao rani atheist daghan pangutana about God. ayaw nalang libugo imong libog oi. lol

    remeber God is a spirit nga nagpaka taw in a form of Jesus. so common sense dili maka anywhere at one time ang pagkataw ni Jesus but the other being w/c is the father mao ang omnipresent.

    mao gihapon useless tubangon ang pangutana dili man gihapon dawaton kay naglibog diay.

  9. #1059
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    Cherry picking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    It is selecting among a choices that exist together(e.g. parts of a book, cherries in the field). Replacing something old with a NEW much improved option is not cherry picking.

    Anyway, your answer is kind of unsatisfying. Its very subjective and not definite. Perhaps you could raise this question with your church group(if any) and share with us their insights.
    I'll no longer going to comment on your cherry picking stuffs.
    I already made my statements before.

    What definite answer do you need?
    If we have proof that Ardi or Lucy already has intellect, apart from any other mammal,
    then they are already human being.
    That's why there is a distinct lineage between men and other animals.
    But still, we might all came from a single-celled animal.

    Please don't imagine Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden eating apples.

    .

  10. #1060
    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    Complexity arises from simplicity all the time. The Mandelbrot set is an example (Dewey 1996). Real-life examples include the following: A pan of water with heat applied uniformly to its bottom will develop convection currents that are more complex than the still water; complex hurricanes arise from similar principles; complex planetary ring systems arise from simple laws of gravitation; complex ant nests arise from simple behaviors; and complex organisms arise from simpler seeds and embryos.

    Was is a hot dense energy? - It is the basic structure of the SUN with its core containing Hot, Dense, Energy Generation Via Fusion, with a Density and Temperature that decrease from Center Outward.


    Where does the Simplicity come from? - it comes from basic functions of matter, that evolves into something complex. Like the formation of a star.
    Astronomers witness a star being born Check the link.

    Now my turn to ask, is your GOD still busy making STARS up until now?

    Ok, we're already getting there.
    I assume you believe in Newton's Law of Consevation of Matter and Energy.
    I remember it when I was grade 5 when my teacher said:
    Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes from one form to another.

    From a point of Singularity(Simplicity), we have a very dense energy ball.
    Don't get me wrong, I am also open with the possibility that we started in a Big Bang.

    But, did this Simplicity existed in eternity? Was it always there before 14billion years ago?


    Now my turn to ask, is your GOD still busy making STARS up until now
    You still don't get my stand, do not think that God is like Zeus, who just points his finger, and
    wallah!! a star is born.
    Last edited by redhorse1L; 06-25-2010 at 04:41 PM. Reason: grammar correction

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