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  1. #1041

    Quote Originally Posted by slabs4 View Post
    unya kabantay sad ka sa mga christians naghimo sad silag video bahin sa pagkabanhaw ni Jesus? kung video raman di ie ato proof parehas ra di ie ta aning nituo sa fairy tail
    Hahahaha.... fairy tale lage na migo, bisag ispecify nato ang The Passion of Christ"
    tanawa migo ang batchmates sa Messiah....
    Spoiler! 

  2. #1042
    @porbidaman

    migo, understand that Satan was already in this world since the dawn of time. Pwed jud niya buhatan ug bisan unsang paagi to discredit the one true GOD. Idk if you truly understand Jesus Christ of the bible. Layo ra gyud sa imong present nga panabot migo. Give me one verse that hes born on Dec. 25.

  3. #1043
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    @porbidaman

    migo, understand that Satan was already in this world since the dawn of time. Pwed jud niya buhatan ug bisan unsang paagi to discredit the one true GOD. Idk if you truly understand Jesus Christ of the bible. Layo ra gyud sa imong present nga panabot migo. Give me one verse that hes born on Dec. 25.
    Aguy Migo imagination man pud na si Lucifer tsk tsk tsk. Bati man gud ang movie "The Religion" kung walay kontrabida.
    Hmmmm, murag wa man na sa bible nga gspecify si Kristo gipanganak pag Dec. 25, pero parehas sila ug bday ni Mithra...

    "Mithra or Mitra is...worshipped as Itu (Mitra-Mitu-Itu) in every house of the Hindus in India. Itu (derivative of Mitu or Mitra) is considered as the Vegetation-deity. This Mithra or Mitra (Sun-God) is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between the Sky and the Earth. It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun's disciples.... [The Sun's] great festivals are observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox—Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb...."

    Swami Prajnanananda, Christ the Saviour and Christ Myth

  4. #1044
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So if mao na, mangutana sah ko..

    Kanang Theory ninyu about sa Big bang or sa Evolution.... Maka Satisfy kaha na sa Imung Requirements sa Empirical FACTS/Evidence nga touch. seeing,and listening?

    Can we Touch the big bang that Happens when the Universe was suppose to be created?
    Do we have some Pictures or illustration so that we can see the Big Bang when it happened?
    Is there any RECORDINGS we can HEAR to Prove the Big bang?

    Kay if wala mu ana nya mu Insist mu nga ang Big Bang FACTS, meaning double standards mu when it comes to the requirements of evidence.. Muhatag mug Requirements sa Belief sa Theist para ma convince mu nga FACTS - Nya inyung mga so called FACTS DILI ka pasar or wala ni Qualify sa inyung ghatag nga Requirements.
    Evidence for the Big Bang

    1. Redshift of Galaxies

    The redshift of distant galaxies means that the Universe is probably expanding. If we then go back far enough in time, everything must have been squashed together into a tiny dot. The rapid eruption from this tiny dot was the Big Bang.

    2. Microwave Background

    Very early in its history, the whole Universe was very hot. As it expanded, this heat left behind a "glow" that fills the entire Universe. The Big Bang theory not only predicts that this glow should exist, but that it should be visible as microwaves - part of the Electromagnetic Spectrum.

    This is the Cosmic Microwave Background which has been accurately measured by orbiting detectors, and is very good evidence that the Big Bang theory is correct.

    3. Mixture of Elements

    As the Universe expanded and cooled down, some of the elements that we see today were created. The Big Bang theory predicts how much of each element should have been made in the early universe, and what we see in very distant galaxies and old stars is just right.

    You cannot look in new stars, like the Sun, for this evidence, because they contain elements that were created in previous generations of stars. As such, the composition of new stars will be very different from the composition of stars that existed 7 billion years ago, shortly after the Big Bang.

    4. Looking back in time

    The main alternative to the Big Bang theory of the Universe is called the Steady State theory. In this theory, the Universe does not change very much with time.

    Remember that because light takes a long time to travel across the Universe, when we look at very distant galaxies, we are also looking back in time.

    From this we can see that galaxies a long time ago were quite different from those today, showing that the Universe has changed. This fits better with the Big Bang theory than the Steady State theory.

  5. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Aguy Migo imagination man pud na si Lucifer tsk tsk tsk. Bati man gud ang movie "The Religion" kung walay kontrabida.
    Hmmmm, murag wa man na sa bible nga gspecify si Kristo gipanganak pag Dec. 25, pero parehas sila ug bday ni Mithra...

    "Mithra or Mitra is...worshipped as Itu (Mitra-Mitu-Itu) in every house of the Hindus in India. Itu (derivative of Mitu or Mitra) is considered as the Vegetation-deity. This Mithra or Mitra (Sun-God) is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between the Sky and the Earth. It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun's disciples.... [The Sun's] great festivals are observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox—Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb...."

    Swami Prajnanananda, Christ the Saviour and Christ Myth
    Tuo manka anang Hinduism migo nga wa man gani na sila makasabot unsay distinction between good and evil.

  6. #1046
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    Tuo manka anang Hinduism migo nga wa man gani na sila makasabot unsay distinction between good and evil.
    Aw wa manko nito-o sa Hindus migo, share lang ko sa FACT na kinopya rapud ang bday ni Jesus

  7. #1047
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    hahay, tag-anan pud lagi basta walay solid proof, mangita sa ug lain palusot disguised as queries.
    Evolution of course nai fossils makit-an nimo nadiscovered, dats seeing as well touching right?
    Big Bang theory- nakabantay ka sa DISCOVERY SCIENCE nga naghimo sila ug video regarding possible creation of Earth and its life, dats seeing again. Ok? Unya asa naman inyong ebidensya?
    PROOF? its the subject of our Discussion right now - WHICH you cant EXPLAIN why You have Different standards and Requirements with regards to Theism BUT Very Different when it Comes to your so called FACTS...


    EVOLUTION is the Theory that MAN Evolve from a Single Celled Organism to our Present Form...

    So based sa imung requirements nga See, Touch and Hear:
    SO naa kay FOSSIL sa Single Celled Organism?
    Naa kay Fossil nga Ni transform from one form to another?
    and can we HEAR them?

    You proved BIG bang in a LAB? is that what you call FACT? wow..
    Did the LAB experiment created an ACTUAL universe?

    Based sa imung Criteria, kana imung FACTS di na mu Qualify. Nya mangita kag Ebedensya sa Theist nga wa paman gani nimu na EXPLAIN ang INCONSISTENCIES sa Requirements sa Facts...

  8. #1048
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikoyan View Post
    Evidence for the Big Bang

    1. Redshift of Galaxies

    The redshift of distant galaxies means that the Universe is probably expanding. If we then go back far enough in time, everything must have been squashed together into a tiny dot. The rapid eruption from this tiny dot was the Big Bang.

    2. Microwave Background

    Very early in its history, the whole Universe was very hot. As it expanded, this heat left behind a "glow" that fills the entire Universe. The Big Bang theory not only predicts that this glow should exist, but that it should be visible as microwaves - part of the Electromagnetic Spectrum.

    This is the Cosmic Microwave Background which has been accurately measured by orbiting detectors, and is very good evidence that the Big Bang theory is correct.

    3. Mixture of Elements

    As the Universe expanded and cooled down, some of the elements that we see today were created. The Big Bang theory predicts how much of each element should have been made in the early universe, and what we see in very distant galaxies and old stars is just right.

    You cannot look in new stars, like the Sun, for this evidence, because they contain elements that were created in previous generations of stars. As such, the composition of new stars will be very different from the composition of stars that existed 7 billion years ago, shortly after the Big Bang.

    4. Looking back in time

    The main alternative to the Big Bang theory of the Universe is called the Steady State theory. In this theory, the Universe does not change very much with time.

    Remember that because light takes a long time to travel across the Universe, when we look at very distant galaxies, we are also looking back in time.

    From this we can see that galaxies a long time ago were quite different from those today, showing that the Universe has changed. This fits better with the Big Bang theory than the Steady State theory.
    Does it QUALIFY ALL the Criteria Set by Porbidaman nga TOUCH, SEE and HEAR? I DONT THINK SO

    So based on his Criteria of FACTS - its NOT A FACT...

  9. #1049
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    PROOF? its the subject of our Discussion right now - WHICH you cant EXPLAIN why You have Different standards and Requirements with regards to Theism BUT Very Different when it Comes to your so called FACTS...


    EVOLUTION is the Theory that MAN Evolve from a Single Celled Organism to our Present Form...

    So based sa imung requirements nga See, Touch and Hear:
    SO naa kay FOSSIL sa Single Celled Organism?
    Naa kay Fossil nga Ni transform from one form to another?
    and can we HEAR them?

    You proved BIG bang in a LAB? is that what you call FACT? wow..
    Did the LAB experiment created an ACTUAL universe?

    Based sa imung Criteria, kana imung FACTS di na mu Qualify. Nya mangita kag Ebedensya sa Theist nga wa paman gani nimu na EXPLAIN ang INCONSISTENCIES sa Requirements sa Facts...
    Hahay likay napud si Siodz sa akong pangutana, idol nimo si Lito Lapid Siodz?
    Evolution Siodz is a FACT, ALL SCIENTISTS agree ana
    You are asking for a unicell organism then go to a science lab, sit in front of a microscope and asked for slides w/ such organisms. You are using the sense of seeing di ba? You want to touch it? kasab-an nya ka sa professor...
    Why ask for a fossil nga naa raman ang slides? Hehehe...

    Ang Big Bang is a theory, OF COURSE! you will see BIG BANG videos in Science laboratories even in classrooms
    Naa man gani nai video sa DISCOVERY ug NAT GEO So seeing diba?

    So, asa naman imong ebidensya sa Ginoo? para ma see, touch and feel nato, just like sa inyong Bible
    Last edited by porbidaman; 09-19-2014 at 12:09 PM.

  10. #1050
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Does it QUALIFY ALL the Criteria Set by Porbidaman nga TOUCH, SEE and HEAR? I DONT THINK SO

    So based on his Criteria of FACTS - its NOT A FACT...
    Nasabtan nimo akong gi post?

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