Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

[Tirong-say]

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OT:
hehehe
dili sa GDP.. sponsored sa US
ang ato mga terrorist kai dili man gud world class unlike sa pakistan
kung mag tarong ug training ato mga local terrorist then ma himo sila threat sa US.. basin sponsoran pud ta

Pakistan Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bush administration on July 24, 2008 informed the US Congress it plans to shift nearly $230 million of $300 million in aid from counterterrorism programs to upgrading Pakistan's aging F-16s.[58] The Bush administration previously announced on June 27, 2008 it was proposing to sell Pakistan ITT Corporation's electronic warfare gear valued at up to $75 million to enhance Islamabad's existing F-16s

Naa man sila daan F-16 aging na lang....

[flanker]

paita bitaw ini, ang pakistan ubos pa ug gdp nato, pero modern kaayo ug air-force,
mas maayo siguro ato na lang pud ubsan atong gdp, para ma-modern ang atong air force.....=)

Lolz. Resources nla nka focus sa defence. Nag maintain pag nukes tungod sa rival India.

Ang comparable sa ato is Vietnam, Indonesia, Myanmar nga duol ra GDP.

[salbahis]

Naa man sila daan F-16 aging na lang....

FEI: The F16 from pakistan was the same F16 offered to abNOY's mother in exchange to let them keep clark AB, but they turned it down... stupid president... so thus her son

[Manta Rye]

pilot needs education
maintainance crew needs education

once ma palit na ang equipment.. ang sunod kai maintainance
maski daghan ta hightech nga equipment pero ang nag operate ug nag maintain kai kuwang sa education.. dili ma utilize ug maayo ang gi palit

sa vietnam war.. hi tech kaayo gamit sa americano.. na pildi kai ila contra knowledgeable kaayo sa lugar
knowledge is power

just to point things out... we are talking about our air force here. and with regards to our educational level in the air force specifically our pilots, well we are one of the best and one of the most professional aviators. come to think of this, although we are not the most advanced in aircrafts, the terrorist pilot that crashed the "World Trade Center" in 2001 did his flying school study here in the Philippines. let us not talk about security how they were able to do it but let us focus on the issue about education.

i am not a pilot but i have been trained with the Helo operation esp the Huey. I would strongly disagree that we are not capable enough to handle advanced equipments for the Air Force. Many of the U.N. pilots are Ex-Philippine Air Force Pilots. the Philippines may be one of the poorest 3rd world countries but it doesn't mean we are ignorants or lacking of education... Filipinos are one of the most flexible races, in fact the most flexible race to adapt any foreign culture. that goes out with hi-tech equipments too...

we cannot compare hi-tech equipments to what happened in Vietnam war. Guerilla warfare is really very hard to fight. even the Japanese troops took hard times in defeating our less equipped Filipino guerilla fighters in WWII. i understand your point, i just wanna defend with honor in behalf of our air force family...because i am part of this family and we are not just sitting around watching things fall apart on television. let us help one another, besides we all live under the same Flag.

[masakiton]

I would strongly disagree that we are not capable enough to handle advanced equipments for the Air Force.

Many of the U.N. pilots are Ex-Philippine Air Force Pilots. the Philippines may be one of the poorest 3rd world countries but it doesn't mean we are ignorants or lacking of education...

akong gi ingon kai "dili ma utilize ug maayo ang gi palit "

good quality of education = good economy
good economy = enough money to buy and maintain updated military equipments

[Manta Rye]

you quoted "maski daghan ta hightech nga equipment pero ang nag operate ug nag maintain kai kuwang sa education.. dili ma utilize ug maayo ang gi palit"

we can utilize ug maayo ang paliton. the maitenance is not affected sa kakuwang sa education.. you have nothing to worry...if there is a factor that this can't be maximized, it is not in the technical know-how but in the logistics (fuel allocation). we have the capable personnel to handle such...education is not that critical...

[masakiton]

you quoted "maski daghan ta hightech nga equipment pero ang nag operate ug nag maintain kai kuwang sa education.. dili ma utilize ug maayo ang gi palit"

we can utilize ug maayo ang paliton. the maitenance is not affected sa kakuwang sa education.. you have nothing to worry...if there is a factor that this can't be maximized, it is not in the technical know-how but in the logistics (fuel allocation). we have the capable personnel to handle such...education is not that critical...

mga mechanic sa mga plane kailangan man pud tingali saktong knowledge
dili man tingali ta basta2x mana pa ayo sa ato aircraft sa less capable (kuwang sa training ug knowledge) mga mechanics

[Manta Rye]

mga mechanic sa mga plane kailangan man pud tingali saktong knowledge
dili man tingali ta basta2x mana pa ayo sa ato aircraft sa less capable (kuwang sa training ug knowledge) mga mechanics

hehehehe...you are definitely right...ayaw kabalaka ang item na paliton kay naay user's manual apil....hehehehe....bitaw oi...ayaw kabalaka...kay ang ato mga mechanics diri kuyaw na ug mga talents...mismo ang U.S. na naghatag nato sa UH-1H Huey helicopters na war-torn from vietnam or asa pa diha na shock pa man gani ngano until now galupad pa daw...ug ang atong C-130 Hercules na eroplano....hehehhe...unya kita filipinos, maski wala pa ta ana na equipment diri naa nay uban nato nga nag schooling na sa gawas sa nasud... and uban pa gani kay flipino ka ang inventor ug ang lecturers abroad...so chillax...

[masakiton]

hehehehe...you are definitely right...ayaw kabalaka ang item na paliton kay naay user's manual apil....hehehehe....bitaw oi...ayaw kabalaka...kay ang ato mga mechanics diri kuyaw na ug mga talents...mismo ang U.S. na naghatag nato sa UH-1H Huey helicopters na war-torn from vietnam or asa pa diha na shock pa man gani ngano until now galupad pa daw...ug ang atong C-130 Hercules na eroplano....hehehhe...unya kita filipinos, maski wala pa ta ana na equipment diri naa nay uban nato nga nag schooling na sa gawas sa nasud... and uban pa gani kay flipino ka ang inventor ug ang lecturers abroad...so chillax...

ang dakong pangutana ... will they stay?
kasagaran mag ka maayo mag ka mahal ang talent fee

[Manta Rye]

ang dakong pangutana ... will they stay?
kasagaran mag ka maayo mag ka mahal ang talent fee

well this is the big question mark...but as for me, if our Air Force will be given its modernization program a green signal then perhaps their morale will be uplifted that makes a man stay. it isn't what they have learned from being in the force that became the reason for some to leave, it is the lack of growth in personal career inside the force. some fall into discontentment, others may have different reasons too.

we FILIPINO soldiers take our lives through trainings and doctrines...one of which is the "Pledge of Loyalty". and being a professional military man one has a conscience to perform his duties. that's why others find their way to stay. but it doesn't mean those who have left were not loyal...they also have found their way to move to another.