Merged Cebu Governor (Del-mar/Jun2x/Annabelle etc)

[nicojames]

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mao kay dugay man ka kasabot. ingon ko kahit naay corruption pwede moasenso kay depende man gihapon sa gobyerno ma influence ng gobyerno ang GDP. wa ko nag-ingon ok ang corruption.

kay para sa imo dili daw ta moasenso kung naay corruption... which you cant back.


unsa man allegation ni PJ ron ? basin about ni Gwen na pud amahan gani DVD naa gihapon corruption allegation when CJ siya.

bro, if you are against corruption, then say so. Ayaw anang style nga libog libogon nimo mga tawo kay mura kag garcia ana. tuyoon ug libog ang klaro na kaayo. mura bag gibogoan nalang jud ba. if according to you a country can develop despite the presence of corruption, then you can only imagine how it would fare without the corruption.

Also, time and again it has been ruled: "what is prohibited directly is prohibited indirectly!". Have you ever heard of the term: circumvention of the law? Well, this is what this rule is for. With that in hindsight, it would utterly be foolish to insist PJ is innocent, would it not? While gwen may be the one directly involved, her counselor, from whom she gets all her legal advices, is also indirectly involved somehow. Why, i woudn't at all be surprised if PJ would be indicted as principal by inducement, and gwen as principal by direct participation.

[Romeojin]

Mao lage nakapait nimo Bro Meo kay dli na dayon barugan nimo imong gisulte.. " Ang imong sulte ang Corruption wala nay epekto sa GDP".. Magtuyok nalang na imo istorya pero usa ra jud ang unod ana na para nimo ang corrption dli makadaot..
Tarong ba gud na ?? Common sense Bro... unya moingon dayon na nagpataka ko...
FYI: Si PJ ang Consultant ni Gwen Garcia aron mapalit ang Balili na ilawom sa dagat worht Multi-Million Pesos.. Unya sa pangusog ni PJ aron matabunan ang ebedinsya gipatabunan nasad worth multi-million of Pesos... Walay corruption diha Bro Meo?
Naa siya gipatukod na Mansion ug ingon pa niya nag loan sya sa Banko ug 10 Million Pesos until now sige pa sya bayad sa Capital plus interest... Kahibaw ba ka unsay source of income ni PJ base sa iyang SALN? Dili ni pataka ako Bro Meo kay kada adlaw ko nagsunod sa balita....... Unya isalig pa nato ang Probinsya sa Sugbo ni PJ ? Na Bankrupt na ni Gwen ug tilokon pa jud na ang monthly IRA ni PJ....

ipost kuno na nag.ingon ako.. ok ang corruption or dili dautan ang corruption. para makita kinsa nagpataka post ha i didnt made such a bold stand.

ikaw lang nag-imply way asenso kung naay corruption. when gipakita nako ang case sa China, grabeha ang corruption then asenso man lagi dako ud credit ratings. Niingon pa gyud ka (korea thread) na walay corruption sa Sokor ug Japan when rampant man pud didto and asenso man lagi sila. nag-ask pa gyud ko kung related ba ang corruption sa economic growth. wa pud nimo gitubag. you see ikaw lang pirme pataka dire ug putting words on people mouth.. di ka mauwaw bai? ikaw pa gyud kusog mo-correction sa uban. kataw-anan kaayo ka.

corruption is as old as the government, kinsa man pud politiko walay interest to recover money spent on election. there are many forms of corruption.

unsa man pud nabuhat ni DVD?, butar nalang niya kay against kamo sa Garcias

[monroy]

bro, if you are against corruption, then say so. Ayaw anang style nga libog libogon nimo mga tawo kay mura kag garcia ana. tuyoon ug libog ang klaro na kaayo. mura bag gibogoan nalang jud ba. if according to you a country can develop despite the presence of corruption, then you can only imagine how it would fare without the corruption.

Also, time and again it has been ruled: "what is prohibited directly is prohibited indirectly!". Have you ever heard of the term: circumvention of the law? Well, this is what this rule is for. With that in hindsight, it would utterly be foolish to insist PJ is innocent, would it not? While gwen may be the one directly involved, her counselor, from whom she gets all her legal advices, is also indirectly involved somehow. Why, i woudn't at all be surprised if PJ would be indicted as principal by inducement, and gwen as principal by direct participation.

actually he is right, a country can develop even with corruption if the government officials are also competent. just look at korea, japan, taiwan and china. the problem here is that most of our officials are not only corrupt but incompetent as well. i'll leave it to others to decide if the garcias are corrupt/competent or corrupt/incompetent. all i can say is corruption and incompetence are a match made in hell...

[vahnhelsing]

ug sobraan sad ka kurakot, wala sad agi kay mas dako pa ang isulod sa bulsa kaysa ipalihok unta.
kun naa man agi dili sad standard, useless ang project.

that's why i wanna try davide...

[Romeojin]

bro, if you are against corruption, then say so. Ayaw anang style nga libog libogon nimo mga tawo kay mura kag garcia ana. tuyoon ug libog ang klaro na kaayo. mura bag gibogoan nalang jud ba. if according to you a country can develop despite the presence of corruption, then you can only imagine how it would fare without the corruption.

Also, time and again it has been ruled: "what is prohibited directly is prohibited indirectly!". Have you ever heard of the term: circumvention of the law? Well, this is what this rule is for. With that in hindsight, it would utterly be foolish to insist PJ is innocent, would it not? While gwen may be the one directly involved, her counselor, from whom she gets all her legal advices, is also indirectly involved somehow. Why, i woudn't at all be surprised if PJ would be indicted as principal by inducement, and gwen as principal by direct participation.

one must understand that there many ways to uplift the economy and government for one isnt the most efficient and losses will only compound, losses from corruption, profiteering by business on govt deals, defense purchase outside the country, govt dole out etc. If the government will maneuver for better economic growth like remove foreign restriction, improve profits of govt own corporation/agency rather than selling it, etc. then we can improve our economic status.

I had my piece on this maybe its best you read at least 10% of my posts lol.

Lastly let the court decide for it, all i see are trial by publicity. If PJ got gwen, DVD got his dad. Plus corruption is as old as the government, thats why i rather vote on people who can deliver or competent for such position.

[Apollo24]

@ Romeojin: Mao ni imong post na para nimo kung Kurakuton ang pundo prehas ra ug epekto kung wala kurakuta.. Ambot unsa nang utoka..

From what i know, kung P2T ang budget sa government mo reflect na diretso sa GDP pool, no matter asa pa na gi spend.

Plus most corruption are kick back from a project/ or fund. kung 1M ang budget kung portion ana gi bulsa still ang computation ana is 1M na add sa GDP.
And im pretty sure padung gihapon sa economy ang most of corruption money
And ma prove ba dayun ang corruption? mag sige diay usab ang GDP data.

[Romeojin]

@ Romeojin: Mao ni imong post na para nimo kung Kurakuton ang pundo prehas ra ug epekto kung wala kurakuta.. Ambot unsa nang utoka..

sunod naa dinha na ok lang sa ako ang kurakot? pataka gyud ka. lisod gyud ka pasabton.

gipakita lang nako unsa relation sa corruption and economic growth. ingon ka hindrance ang corruption when klaro man sa China, Japan, Sokor, thailand(na tiger sila), Indonesia(tiger pud sila) etc na dili hindrance ang corruption. corruption is as old as the govt lagi, ang policy nila sets the difference. kasabot naka?

giingnan gani taka... tagai ko computation of GDP na naay data sa corruption kung naa ba? hehehe.

[KOLPO SAMOT]

kani si apollo24 bisag pareha mi gilabanan pero mag cege ug pangaway pagka ungo.

[Apollo24]

sunod naa dinha na ok lang sa ako ang kurakot? pataka gyud ka. lisod gyud ka pasabton.
gipakita lang nako unsa relation sa corruption and economic growth. ingon ka hindrance ang corruption when klaro man sa China, Japan, Sokor, thailand(na tiger sila), Indonesia(tiger pud sila) etc na dili hindrance ang corruption. corruption is as old as the govt lagi, ang policy nila sets the difference. kasabot naka?
giingnan gani taka... tagai ko computation of GDP na naay data sa corruption kung naa ba? hehehe.

Pataka naman sad ka Bro Meo....Rampant ang Corruption sa South Korea ug Japan Bro Meo? Post daw ug Link beh na ka level sa Pinas sa Corruption ang Japan ug South Korea... Basin ug North Korea imo pasabot.... Ayaw lage cge pataka kay bisan unsaon ug kwenta ang Corruption ang nakabagsak sa Pinas nagsugod sa tym ni Marcos ug gitiwasan sa time ni GMA... Maayo gane dli Corrupt si Pinoy ug nisaka ang atong economy karon... Sa Probinsiya sa Sugbo tungod sa grabeng Corruption di ba na bankrupt so sunod Bro Meo ang atong botaran Tarong ug Ligdong nasad na si Davide aron molambo sad ta!

[kobe24]

kinsa man jud ang boy sweto ninyo duha