MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[JcBoY]

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why would they? your pretty much imposing there "could be" something ani. kindly share it..? if it is really factual.

Aside from the Paris Treaty have you ever heard of this Bates Treaty? This Bates Treaty was invoked by the late MILF Chairman Hashim Salamat in his letter to former US President George W. Bush Jr.. Regardless of political legitimacy of this peace agreement we can not deny that there might a huge business opportunities behind this so-called peace agreement. Foreign investors are eagerly waiting for this peace pact to come true. So, why do we have to condemn the Bangsmoro to long for sovereignty over selected areas in Mindanao? Do we want them to invoke the Bates Treaty supported by the US government?

[elvandesantos]

Aside from the Paris Treaty have you ever heard of this Bates Treaty? This Bates Treaty was invoked by the late MILF Chairman Hashim Salamat in his letter to former US President George W. Bush Jr.. Regardless of political legitimacy of this peace agreement we can not deny that there might a huge business opportunities behind this so-called peace agreement. Foreign investors are eagerly waiting for this peace pact to come true. So, why do we have to condemn the Bangsmoro to long for sovereignty over selected areas in Mindanao? Do we want them to invoke the Bates Treaty supported by the US government?

ows. every known person wants to invest in peaceful places. but im not/ where not favoring the splitting up of the philippines. and btw, not all muslims wants to be separated(they know the capacity of the rebels unsay padungan sah ilang kinabuhi pag sila nah ang gobyerno) FYI, only those hardcore renegades.

[hulagway]

nya saman ok pa? ipahimutang ug tarong inyo utok sunod kugn kung mo pili mo ug leader..kanang dili ma sulsulan...

[eezychair]

How are these events going to affect the agreement about to be signed on Oct. 15th?

Mayor accuses MNLF of massing in Zamboanga del Sur town | Inquirer News

Misuari recently threatened to sue the Philippine government before the International Court of Justice for signing a framework agreement towards peace with the Moro Islamic Libertion Front despite its existing peace agreement with the MNLF.

From another front, Leonen says the MNLF was consulted about this agreement: Palace: MNLF won't be marginalized | ABS-CBN News

"MNLF was consulted directly and through Indonesia, the facilitator. We have said/sent the message that we intend the presence of making the new law inclusive; that they will have representation in the Transition Commission, an intent that we have communicated to MILF as well," Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Ging Deles said in a text message read by Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda.

"The OIC [Organization of the Islamic Conference] has already convened MNLF and MILF leaders to push for unity and coordination. Our policy from the start has been to push for convergence between the two peace tables. The OIC Peace Commission for Southern Philippines (PCSP) supports this. Significant elements of MNLF have welcomed this development. With the ARMM government, we are working with MNLF communities which have clearly expressed their support for the peace process and have called for their leaders to unite."

But this does not seem to be the case in another news item posted earlier today: MNLF feels 'double talked,' 'betrayed' » Nation » News | Philippine News | philstar.com

“But what about the final agreement with the MNLF and the GRP? They should have first declared this as abrogated and abrogate it officially before entering into another agreement,” Hashim said.

“For us, this is double talk, a betrayal on the part of the government on the MNLF,” he added.

He said the MNLF is very concerned with the possible effects of the “framework agreement,” saying it is a total unilateral abrogation of the 1996 peace agreement, the Tripoli agreement, and the Jeddah accord of 1987.

The MNLF have entered into three agreements with the government from the time of former President Ferdinand Marcos in 1976, former President Cory Aquino in 1986 to 1987, and former President Fidel Ramos in 1996 which resulted in the enactment of the Republic Act 1954, the establishment of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

“Now, they would like to erase that from the face of history,” Hashim said.

While peace in Mindanao is all that really matters, the statements, negotiations and agreements from all sides seem ambiguous it is not difficult to wonder if indeed this is the best that can be done. It will not be surprising that once human pride and greed sets in, such vagueness can easily upset the peace pact and bring the whole thing back to where it started - armed struggle.

[eezychair]

So here's another news that is worrisome:

Nur warns of unrest in South - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines

MNLF through Nur Misuari seems to be beating the ground with his pronouncements. Did the government anticipate this? Why did the government say the ARMM was a failed experiment. Even if it was, it would have been more prudent not to have said that. Now MNLF is saying it is 'skeptical as to what guarantee there will be after the signing of a final peace agreement with MILF that it will not be declared by the government or by the incoming administration or next president as a failed experiment. So there will be no end of conflict in the south'.

[naxi85]

Because there is no other recourse now for the (MNLF), at least the majority of the senior leaders of the MNLF, we have no other recourse but to go back to the original objective of arms struggle,” Hashim warned.

ang ending ani ky gubat napud.

[elvandesantos]

How are these events going to affect the agreement about to be signed on Oct. 15th?

Mayor accuses MNLF of massing in Zamboanga del Sur town | Inquirer News

Misuari recently threatened to sue the Philippine government before the International Court of Justice for signing a framework agreement towards peace with the Moro Islamic Libertion Front despite its existing peace agreement with the MNLF.

From another front, Leonen says the MNLF was consulted about this agreement: Palace: MNLF won't be marginalized | ABS-CBN News

"MNLF was consulted directly and through Indonesia, the facilitator. We have said/sent the message that we intend the presence of making the new law inclusive; that they will have representation in the Transition Commission, an intent that we have communicated to MILF as well," Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Ging Deles said in a text message read by Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda.

"The OIC [Organization of the Islamic Conference] has already convened MNLF and MILF leaders to push for unity and coordination. Our policy from the start has been to push for convergence between the two peace tables. The OIC Peace Commission for Southern Philippines (PCSP) supports this. Significant elements of MNLF have welcomed this development. With the ARMM government, we are working with MNLF communities which have clearly expressed their support for the peace process and have called for their leaders to unite."

But this does not seem to be the case in another news item posted earlier today: MNLF feels 'double talked,' 'betrayed' » Nation » News | Philippine News | philstar.com

“But what about the final agreement with the MNLF and the GRP? They should have first declared this as abrogated and abrogate it officially before entering into another agreement,” Hashim said.

“For us, this is double talk, a betrayal on the part of the government on the MNLF,” he added.

He said the MNLF is very concerned with the possible effects of the “framework agreement,” saying it is a total unilateral abrogation of the 1996 peace agreement, the Tripoli agreement, and the Jeddah accord of 1987.

The MNLF have entered into three agreements with the government from the time of former President Ferdinand Marcos in 1976, former President Cory Aquino in 1986 to 1987, and former President Fidel Ramos in 1996 which resulted in the enactment of the Republic Act 1954, the establishment of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

“Now, they would like to erase that from the face of history,” Hashim said.

While peace in Mindanao is all that really matters, the statements, negotiations and agreements from all sides seem ambiguous it is not difficult to wonder if indeed this is the best that can be done. It will not be surprising that once human pride and greed sets in, such vagueness can easily upset the peace pact and bring the whole thing back to where it started - armed struggle.

nah.. favoring MILF. redicules the treaty signed by MNLF and the Philippine Govt. its absurd and really Nur and the MNLF Party has the upper hand if moreclamo sila sah international court. hinaot d sila mo rally sah ila tao againts the MILF.. that would be worry some.

[i_the_mighty]

Di ba pud kaha ni election related? Seeing Nur Misuari running for gubernatorial race sa ARMM kontra kay Hattaman (current governor/appointed by no one else than our beloved PNoy). Sorry kung likoy akong point, di lang malikayan.

[mudskipper77]

bisag unsaon pna ug negotiate kay gubot ra gihapon na ang padungan. kasinati nko anang ilang mga kina-iya...magpatay man gani nang pamilya kontra lain pud pamilya.

[Renz8]

Mindanao would never achieve lasting peace as long as arm groups in the area is not neutralize&the central government continues to neglect it's needs...............