MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[voldemort]

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So now they want 75% of all the wealth generated within the Bangsamoro areas:

MILF exec wants 75-25 wealth sharing in Bangsamoro | ABS-CBN News

"Ang pinag-uusapan sa wealth sharing ay mayroong 25% ang national government na manggagaling dito sa amin…Palagay ko plantsado na ito, 75-25 [percent] in favor of the Bangsamoro," MILF Vice Chairman for Political Affairs Ghadzali Jaafar told radio dzMM."

"Asked what would be the MILF's stand in the event the national government asks for a larger share than 25%, Jaafar only said, "no comment ako diyan.""

If they don't get what they want, where could this lead to?

""Let us hope and pray. You can just imagine kapag muling sumiklab ang digmaan sa lugar ng Bangsamoro," he said."

I expect this problem to be a problem of the next administration. It is enough that the current administration is basking in the glory of the supposed peaceful solution that they arrived at. Something that is in essence no different from the solution presented by the previous administration that was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

Ah, ngiga 75% man gyud ilaha share. Unya hatagan pa gyud sila ug annual budget nga gikan sa atong taxes?? murag pera-pera ra man diay gihapon ni.

[balipseyev]

Ibalik si ERAP arun managan nasad ning mga amaw...

[i_the_mighty]

"Ang pinag-uusapan sa wealth sharing ay mayroong 25% ang national government na manggagaling dito sa amin…Palagay ko plantsado na ito, 75-25 [percent] in favor of the Bangsamoro," MILF Vice Chairman for Political Affairs Ghadzali Jaafar told radio dzMM."

"Asked what would be the MILF's stand in the event the national government asks for a larger share than 25%, Jaafar only said, "no comment ako diyan.""

If they don't get what they want, where could this lead to?

""Let us hope and pray. You can just imagine kapag muling sumiklab ang digmaan sa lugar ng Bangsamoro," he said."

Mao nay nakabahog tiktik ana sa iyang gisulti pa lang daan. I don't see where the term "AGREEMENT" lies on all this BS. Its as if ila nalang tanan.

Gatuo mo nga sa current situation gina-declare sad na nila fully ang "wealth" sa ilang lugar? Butang ta sa 100 gibulsa nila ang 30, ang i-declare 70. Sa 70, 75% ilaha 25% nat'l govt. WTF!

Idungag pa diha ang kahadlok sa mga nangamuyo diha nga mga supak nila. Since kaning mga tawhana naanad og nangiabuhi na man ni sila sa bukid pero gahawid og armas. Tanawon lang nato ang agi ani.

Mao nang wa jud koy salig aning mga tawhana, o gi-generalize na ko na kay wa juy mapili ana nila.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Ambot aning gobernoha.. magpalupig man nuon sa mga rebelde imbes sila ang mo set ug condition sila na man hinoon gikondisyonan.

[mudskipper77]

ngano man gud dili nalang ni sila makighiusa nato oi? kinahanglan pa gyud ug separate2...unya kani raba ilang kinaiya kay dili magpabintaha pero mga bintahuso kau.

[eezychair]

Now it's MNLF's time to be disgruntled:

MNLF feels 'double talked,' 'betrayed' » Nation » News | Philippine News | philstar.com

ZAMBOANGA CITY - The Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) said Tuesday that it felt "double talked" and "betrayed" by the national government for entering into the "framework agreement" with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).

The MNLF said that the current treatment of the government of the 1996 final peace accord will force its members to return from the mainstream to arms struggle.

Habib Mujahab Hashim, chairman of the MNLF’s Islamic Command Council (ICC), said the “framework agreement” is tantamount to the total abrogation of the peace accord they have with the government.

The ICC is one of the three factions of the MNLF led by its founder , Nur Misuari and the wing of Muslimin Sema.

“But what about the final agreement with the MNLF and the GRP? They should have first declared this as abrogated and abrogate it officially before entering into another agreement,” Hashim said.

“For us, this is double talk, a betrayal on the part of the government on the MNLF,” he added.

He said the MNLF is very concerned with the possible effects of the “framework agreement,” saying it is a total unilateral abrogation of the 1996 peace agreement, the Tripoli agreement, and the Jeddah accord of 1987.

The MNLF have entered into three agreements with the government from the time of former President Ferdinand Marcos in 1976, former President Cory Aquino in 1986 to 1987, and former President Fidel Ramos in 1996 which resulted in the enactment of the Republic Act 1954, the establishment of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

“Now, they would like to erase that from the face of history,” Hashim said.

The government's agreement with the MILF espouses the establishment of a Bangsamoro territory, which will replace the ARMM.

OIC petition, armed struggle
Hashim, who is the concurrent MNLF deputy foreign minister, said the group will exhaust all remedies by bringing the issue to the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC).
He said that under the tripartite form of agreement pursuant to international law and international practice, one party cannot abrogate an agreement without the consent of the other party.
He stressed that the MNLF was not consulted on the current agreement with the MILF.
Hashim said while the “framework agreement” is good for the MILF, he is doubtful if it will be good for all the Bangsamoro people. He also said that the MNLF is the sole representative of the Bangsamoro people internationally.
He said the MNLF leaders will be regrouping and organizing in the coming days to go back to its common and original objective.
“Because there is no other recourse now for the Moro National Liberation Front, at least the majority of the senior leaders of the MNLF, we have no other recourse but to go back to the original objective of arms struggle,” Hashim said.
“We will no longer entertain any form of ministerial or, if it is autonomy it shall be independence. That is what we have fought for the last time,” Hashim said.
However, Hashim clarified that they will not move at this point in time for any drastic actions.
“Hayaan muna natin sila. Hopefully they will succeed,” he added.
Hashim, meanwhile, said that he resents the government’s description of the ARMM as a failed experiment. The ARMM is the fruit of the 1996 peace agreement after 40 years of negotiations.
“Pinaghirapan nila, pinaghirapan ng MNLF, after 40 years and a short period of time they will say it is a failed experiment?” Hashim said.
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[mudskipper77]

we get rid of one problem by creating other problem...hay naku!binuang...

Now it's MNLF's time to be disgruntled:

MNLF feels 'double talked,' 'betrayed' » Nation » News | Philippine News | philstar.com

ZAMBOANGA CITY - The Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) said Tuesday that it felt "double talked" and "betrayed" by the national government for entering into the "framework agreement" with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).

The MNLF said that the current treatment of the government of the 1996 final peace accord will force its members to return from the mainstream to arms struggle.

Habib Mujahab Hashim, chairman of the MNLF’s Islamic Command Council (ICC), said the “framework agreement” is tantamount to the total abrogation of the peace accord they have with the government.

The ICC is one of the three factions of the MNLF led by its founder , Nur Misuari and the wing of Muslimin Sema.

“But what about the final agreement with the MNLF and the GRP? They should have first declared this as abrogated and abrogate it officially before entering into another agreement,” Hashim said.

“For us, this is double talk, a betrayal on the part of the government on the MNLF,” he added.

He said the MNLF is very concerned with the possible effects of the “framework agreement,” saying it is a total unilateral abrogation of the 1996 peace agreement, the Tripoli agreement, and the Jeddah accord of 1987.

The MNLF have entered into three agreements with the government from the time of former President Ferdinand Marcos in 1976, former President Cory Aquino in 1986 to 1987, and former President Fidel Ramos in 1996 which resulted in the enactment of the Republic Act 1954, the establishment of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

“Now, they would like to erase that from the face of history,” Hashim said.

The government's agreement with the MILF espouses the establishment of a Bangsamoro territory, which will replace the ARMM.

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[bleedingboi]

Are these territories getting federalized? Like they keep their own income, while we keep our income, thus, central money is not going to these corrupt former ARMM officials?

[amingb]

So now they want 75% of all the wealth generated within the Bangsamoro areas:

MILF exec wants 75-25 wealth sharing in Bangsamoro | ABS-CBN News

"Ang pinag-uusapan sa wealth sharing ay mayroong 25% ang national government na manggagaling dito sa amin…Palagay ko plantsado na ito, 75-25 [percent] in favor of the Bangsamoro," MILF Vice Chairman for Political Affairs Ghadzali Jaafar told radio dzMM."

"Asked what would be the MILF's stand in the event the national government asks for a larger share than 25%, Jaafar only said, "no comment ako diyan.""

If they don't get what they want, where could this lead to?

""Let us hope and pray. You can just imagine kapag muling sumiklab ang digmaan sa lugar ng Bangsamoro," he said."

I expect this problem to be a problem of the next administration. It is enough that the current administration is basking in the glory of the supposed peaceful solution that they arrived at. Something that is in essence no different from the solution presented by the previous administration that was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

Sakto jud to ako tagna2x nga 70% (75% diay) ilaha pangayoon .. uyon raman pud ang mga Pro Pnoy ani kay okay raman si Pnoy ... matod pas mga Pnoy Loyalist bounds within the constitution daw .... tuo pud sila sa sulti ni Leonen nga kanang "ministerial form" form of government dili ma aperktohan ang atong constitution ....

Ang Resulta ani mas rich pang Bangsamoro sa RP .. kalooy sa pinas gi betray ni Pnoy .... pero okay ra kay daghan man Yellow sugot ra sila ug Betrayal kay idol mana nila si Pnoy ....

[amingb]

Mao nay nakabahog tiktik ana sa iyang gisulti pa lang daan. I don't see where the term "AGREEMENT" lies on all this BS. Its as if ila nalang tanan.

Gatuo mo nga sa current situation gina-declare sad na nila fully ang "wealth" sa ilang lugar? Butang ta sa 100 gibulsa nila ang 30, ang i-declare 70. Sa 70, 75% ilaha 25% nat'l govt. WTF!

Idungag pa diha ang kahadlok sa mga nangamuyo diha nga mga supak nila. Since kaning mga tawhana naanad og nangiabuhi na man ni sila sa bukid pero gahawid og armas. Tanawon lang nato ang agi ani.

Mao nang wa jud koy salig aning mga tawhana, o gi-generalize na ko na kay wa juy mapili ana nila.

Si Pnoy ug Leonen ipausap na nila mga Bullshit nang mga Tawhana ... feeling kaau mga Hero