OPEN FORUM On Free Internet (USB Modems)

[Resurgence]

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murag stupid naman nga i.bring pa dri ang rich get richer-poor becomes poorer argument in order to get free Internet.

I am not rich, yet I pay my telco for my Internet. So is that bad then? So what if I am making them rich? Like they are sponsoring genocide or whatever horror one may think of.

Not being able to afford the monthly due for Internet access does not justify using other means, illegal or whatever circumvention you may think of, to get it for free. Morals LANG pud unta g.huna2. Kung wa kay morals sa digital world, how much more in real life then?

Nuff said.

[psychemaster]

murag stupid naman nga i.bring pa dri ang rich get richer-poor becomes poorer argument in order to get free Internet.

I am not rich, yet I pay my telco for my Internet. So is that bad then? So what if I am making them rich? Like they are sponsoring genocide or whatever horror one may think of.

Not being able to afford the monthly due for Internet access does not justify using other means, illegal or whatever circumvention you may think of, to get it for free. Morals LANG pud unta g.huna2. Kung wa kay morals sa digital world, how much more in real life then?

Nuff said.

please back read if we are getting it for free and if it is illegal ngano wala man na-priso? it is not bad to pay the telcos pero do you think it is more practical to find ways to save nowadays?

what makes it a stupid argument nga the rich gets richer? is it not true?

to get free internet? again it is not free.

what makes it immoral if you're helping people to save on their internet connection?

[Resurgence]

mao bya ang g.hisgotan dri. Kung okay ra ba nga ipadayon nang mga free internet threads sa Istorya.

Unsa man d.i purpose ngano magbayad sa telco? Dili ba para makagamit sa ilang infrastructure para maka Internet?

Nagpadato lgeh sila, pero a bulk of what I and anybody else who pays them goes into maintaining the said infrastructure that allows you to access the Internet. Wa man kay mahimo ana, they have the infra and can afford it. You don't.

What makes it immoral? Because you are denying what is due to the telco. They provided the infrastructure, you did not.

[netcommando]

hotly debated jud ni nga topic sa mga straight networkers vs. clever networkers. dugay jud ko naghuna-huna asa dapit ang vpn ani mo-apply?
VPN requirement to work is to have internet connectivity first while kini ilang free vpn internet, you need the vpn in order to have internet.
VPN: private network <--> use public network but secured communications <--> private network
free vpn internet: private network <---> extended private network via wireless telco secured communication<--> vpn server <--> public network

see the difference? they applied the VPN over the wireless telco. what a trick!!!? no trick at all since cellular wireless system is the most secured wireless communications. this secured thing wa lang nato masabti nga mao diay naka vulnerable sa cellular technology when it comes to data communications. imagine that the sim used is just an ordinary sim, not a data sim. sulayi lang ug tawag ang sim number during browsing di ba busy. i think old tech is applied here, the DIAL-UP. the access code, the apn. authentication method pap or pap/chap are all present.

the same thing sa mga dial-up operators niadtong unang panahon kaso lang u need to pay telco for the tel line where as karon free ang wireless signals.

this VPN is just a "fall guy term". the original purpose does not fit being used in the free vpn internet.

[twEATer]

lisod kaayo makipag argue sa mga tawo nga wala or dili kahibalo mo set up ug vpn server sulod sa vps.

Q:y should u pay? coz u owe to them (telcos) so u can operate ur business. they deserve their cut too.
A:hays naglisod man gani mi bayad sa maintenance sa mga servers unya pabayaron na nuon mi nimo sa telco nga nag earn of millions kaga tuig. nice suggestion. the rich will become richer and the poor never mind.

Q:ur buying data from different provider and ur so kind enough to use local telco's infra for free, how ironic is that?
A:i have the right to buy data from different provider since i bought the modem. i can use the modem anyway i want.

Q:ur data is passing thru telco's network as additional bandwidth or should i say excess bagage!
A:any proof? i hope your not just guessing.

Tweater

Again it is not the data from the VPN server that you are paying. VPN server doesn't contain the data that you want to access (e.g. naa sa VPN server ninyo ang data from Facebook?) Ang use of VPN server is to facilitate the secured connection that will be established through these telco's network.

A: pagsure dha tweater. kinsa nag ingon nimo nga ang server gigamit namo sa vpn wala data? the truth is when the server runs out of data it will go down ug dili na magamit.

About sa signal kay dili kami ang tag-iya pero it is free mao no need to pay. Data is not free mao nagpalit mi ug server to give data instead ang telcos mao maghatag ug data nga perting mahala. One reason ngano barato ang VPN kay data from US barato ra unlike data from Asia nga mahal kaayo.

Lisud dyud makig-argue nga ang knowledge sa VPN kay kana rang pag-install sa version 5.0 kay nasapon na pud ang port nga gigamit. Sunod naa na pd version 6 kay nasapon na pd ang port.

Bro, please do me a favor and get yourself oriented on how to setup the real vpn. Para magkasinabot ta. See link below. Read and let me know if naa ba data involve ana? Please pud ko check if naa ba ang data sa Facebook account nako sa VPN servers ninyo bro. If naa ba bag-o scandal diha sa inyo VPN servers bro. You'll realize nga sa bisaya pa agihan ra sya ug data nga imu ga-itry ug access. Lahi ang VPN server ug data server bro.
Article - setting up a VPN. FYI. Mao na ako trabaho sauna bro.

Signal - free? No need to pay? What a silly understanding. Walay telco nga mag-setup ug cellsites to give you a signal you need without earning from you. Imuha lagi ng modem wala may nangilog nimu. Pero imuha ang cellsite? Para ra na ninyo? Gitukod ng mga cellsite para sa inyong VPN?

Sige imu man dyud i-insist nga free ang signal and we can do anything we want out of it, let me ask you these questions again based on the terms of usage.

1. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) part of Globe's regular workings of their system or network connections?
2. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) not bypassing Smart's network?
3. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) an authorized activity by Sun?
4. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) not preventing DMPI from imposing and/or collecting the applicable legal charges?

OT:
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[twEATer]

please back read if we are getting it for free and if it is illegal ngano wala man na-priso? it is not bad to pay the telcos pero do you think it is more practical to find ways to save nowadays?

what makes it a stupid argument nga the rich gets richer? is it not true?

to get free internet? again it is not free.

Kung illegal, priso dyud dayon? Dili pwede mag-sorry sa. heheh ang point diri is not the prevailing law, it's the terms and conditions provided by these telcos. Kay maski moingun ka nga free ang signal and you can use it any way you want, wala kay katungod nga gamiton na other than the services that they are offering.

Ask the one who created the software you are using if you are getting an internet connection out of paying or is it the access to their VPN servers you are paying so you can bypass telco's network and eventually can access the internet. Cympre dili nila idivulge nga sa mga VPN server mo gaconnect para mabypass ang mga paid services sa telco.

[netcommando]

ng gawas ng mga tinood diri...

klaro na kaau, kung wala ang wireless telco smart, globe, sun wala pud ning free vpn internet...

Klareks? aw mas klaro pas ka clear!

sulayi daw ninyo ug paandar ang free vpn internet sa satellite provided internet, tan-awon tag ka-paandar ba mo. try Smart ACES, moscom, etc kanang satellite internet provider sa mga barko. tan-awon nato kakuha ba mog free channel. tv hinoon naay daghan free channel.

bottom line, these free vpn internet nangapyot lng sa wireless telco.

[moklo]

imagine that the sim used is just an ordinary sim, not a data sim. sulayi lang ug tawag ang sim number during browsing di ba busy.

Wa na sa sim ang problema kung mo busy inig tawag nimo while nag net sir, depende na sa modem. Kung dili activated ang voice feature sa modem mao jud na mahitabo..

[twEATer]

Dili daw illegal pero ang ila gistoryahan kay "so far sa ako mga clients kay wala pa man nablock ang sim." "bad trip nablock ako sim, palit na lng pud ko ug lain sim ani."

Why man iblock inyo sim? Dili authorize ang gigamitan sa sim. Sayon sabton. They know it, they just can't get it.

[ibaning]

Dili daw illegal pero ang ila gistoryahan kay "so far sa ako mga clients kay wala pa man nablock ang sim." "bad trip nablock ako sim, palit na lng pud ko ug lain sim ani."

Why man iblock inyo sim? Dili authorize ang gigamitan sa sim. Sayon sabton. They know it, they just can't get it.

TUARA! brod psyche, mao na proof imng gusto? palihug nlng ta tubag sa mga pangutana ni brod twEATer.