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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokog View Post
    naa man sad gani nabuhat daghan maayo ang church like charity
    The discussion here is getting hotter.

    It has been said, although I don't know asa na verse sa bible ni. "You can not serve two masters at the same time". The two masters mentioned here is GOD and MONEY.

    The church primary role is to serve GOD not MONEY. While others say that money is for humanitarian purposes, still it is not the right way for the church to be involve about. Money is the source of evil, IMO. Church has to stay away from it to retain the people's trust.

    As quoted above. Let's take an example, During election politicians charity contribution to the church floods. But that does not mean that these politicians are already good and Godly. Front ra na mga buhata para ingnon nga maayo kunohay. Well, you may quick to say, it is a crab mentality, but that's the way I see it. If the church wants to serve GOD, it must stay away from handling money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Click Here View Post
    The article connotes "investigated" pero murag na una pa imong results kaysa sa investigators.

    Grabe kaayo imong kalagot sa mga pari noh nga nag generalize na pod ka? hmmmm nganu diay?
    Where there's smoke, there's fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    catholic church is all about business, period.
    its not even debatable.
    Soo obvious!!! I know that they'll still end up getting away with this scandal. This is not the first time that they got involved with this kind of scandal.

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    i think the church has always been about money. Dili ni pasabot nga kuwarta ra jud ilang gi apas, peroklaro jud kaayo nga kuwarta = power, power = ability to gain or force converts, converts = mas daghan maka adto sa langit (matud pa sa mga pare).

    Catholic church has been involved in banking since the knights templars. They went against the templars not because they disagreed with getting more money, but because the king of france at that time was heavily indebted to the knights (and indirectly to the church) and the pope at that time was effectively a hostage of the king.

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    there are 3 powerfull heads of great institutions in the world. first, the president of the US, second, the Head of UN, third, the Pope. powerfull in the sense that their influence can change great things that will affect the way we live. the catholic church is one big money pot. they have invested billions of dollars in structure and huge corporations. exclusive of millions of dollars in personal donations from rich individuals. remember they are tax exempted. if you could see here in the Phils. religious leaders are not just rich but uber wealthy. why? because people made them so. people are so concern of their salvation that they think they can buy their way thru it. we live in new times yet, still so primitive.

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    The discussion here is getting hotter.

    It has been said, although I don't know asa na verse sa bible ni. "You can not serve two masters at the same time". The two masters mentioned here is GOD and MONEY.

    The church primary role is to serve GOD not MONEY. While others say that money is for humanitarian purposes, still it is not the right way for the church to be involve about. Money is the source of evil, IMO. Church has to stay away from it to retain the people's trust.

    As quoted above. Let's take an example, During election politicians charity contribution to the church floods. But that does not mean that these politicians are already good and Godly. Front ra na mga buhata para ingnon nga maayo kunohay. Well, you may quick to say, it is a crab mentality, but that's the way I see it. If the church wants to serve GOD, it must stay away from handling money.

    Bro, siguro mas okay ug sabton nato : "to be slave to mammon, money". Pero, ang simbahan isip organization nanginahanglan ug funds in order to exist, work, give salaries to employees and carry out its ideals, that is, charitable works. kinahanglan sad niya i manage o administer iyang resources aron dili ma bankarote .. as I see it, everybody wants to church to go bankrupt, so it will just die down ... pero, di man jud siguro mahitabo ni ba.

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    gina ingon pa "Money is the root of all evil".... but without money will lead us into temptation hehehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by slyder10 View Post
    there are 3 powerfull heads of great institutions in the world. first, the president of the US, second, the Head of UN, third, the Pope. powerfull in the sense that their influence can change great things that will affect the way we live. the catholic church is one big money pot. they have invested billions of dollars in structure and huge corporations. exclusive of millions of dollars in personal donations from rich individuals. remember they are tax exempted. if you could see here in the Phils. religious leaders are not just rich but uber wealthy. why? because people made them so. people are so concern of their salvation that they think they can buy their way thru it. we live in new times yet, still so primitive.
    Giving donations is so superficial, the real goal is only to assist the church in acheiving what it is suppose to do, upholding the faith.
    and by the way nobody owns the money that is being taken cared of, but the entire catholic family itself, not a single entity owns it, and it's coming from us not from anybody else.

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    Just today, all the major newspapers carry the news of a protestant bishop being sued to court for soliciting *** by two men, now 21 & 22. The crime was committed when they were still teenagers. Surprise of all surprises!!! Nobody talks about it here ... kung obispo pa ni nga katoliko o pari kaha o monghi, na... nag oros oros na jud ni nga news ngari sa Istorya!!! Just asking ra ni!

    Personally, I don't even like to take this into issue. But what I am saying is that, it seems to me: when we condemn, we tend to be choosy; and the catholic church always is a favorite target.

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by masterjanuarius View Post
    Just today, all the major newspapers carry the news of a protestant bishop being sued to court for soliciting *** by two men, now 21 & 22. The crime was committed when they were still teenagers. Surprise of all surprises!!! Nobody talks about it here ... kung obispo pa ni nga katoliko o pari kaha o monghi, na... nag oros oros na jud ni nga news ngari sa Istorya!!! Just asking ra ni!

    Personally, I don't even like to take this into issue. But what I am saying is that, it seems to me: when we condemn, we tend to be choosy; and the catholic church always is a favorite target.
    it is because we flock in multitude....

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by masterjanuarius View Post
    Bro, siguro mas okay ug sabton nato : "to be slave to mammon, money". Pero, ang simbahan isip organization nanginahanglan ug funds in order to exist, work, give salaries to employees and carry out its ideals, that is, charitable works. kinahanglan sad niya i manage o administer iyang resources aron dili ma bankarote .. as I see it, everybody wants to church to go bankrupt, so it will just die down ... pero, di man jud siguro mahitabo ni ba.
    If a person is being paid of his works, then that is not charitable works. Ang church ba ni exist for the purpose of charity? Can people not do without them? Kung naay drought, famine, calamities, naay mga way kaon, naay way kapuy-an, ang simbahan ba ang basulon? Dili man siguro, ang gobyerno man. Asa naman ang charitable nature sa church? daghan ang gipang gutom, daghan ang nangasakit, pero ngano tua man sa bank ang ilang kwarta? Para unsaon man diay to?

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