sa mga ignorante og eroplano...hehe

[AngGamhanan]

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ngano d i gitawag na og black box?

From wiki:

"Early flight data recorders were literally boxes painted black, hence the term "Black Boxes". It wasn't until 1965 they were required to be painted bright orange or bright yellow to make them easier to find at a crash scene. The term "Black" also often implies death and the last moments of fatal flights are often revealed throught the FDR. Perhaps this is a reason the moniker stuck even after the devices were painted."

[Tarmac]

All airliners are required to be fitted with black boxes (which are actually orange).

There are two kinds of black boxes, the Flight Data Recorder (FDR) and the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR)

The FDR records data like speed, altitude (height), attitude, engine settings, control positions, instrument readouts, and dozens of other parameters. It essentially helps tell investigators what the plane was doing.

The CVR records conversations between the cockpit crewmembers. It essentially helps tell investigators what the crew was doing.

[minatch09]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......

[cptn_star]

Black box because of its grim purpose, which is to record data to help air crash investigators.

grim indeed sir...manlimbawt jd ako balahibo maminaw sa CVR....

[extinct113]

xaro... di njd ka masaag.. XD

[Tarmac]

grim indeed sir...manlimbawt jd ako balahibo maminaw sa CVR....

Ma-o gyud, knowing you are listening to dead men. But black box recordings contain invaluable lessons for all airmen out there.

Take for instance this recording of Air Florida 90, which crashed in 1982. It's not too clear throughout but in the end you can hear the pilots saying they knew they were stalling and going down (i.e. crashing).

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/MP3s/rcvraf90.mp3

Here's the transcript and synopsis of the accident

(Note: the MP3 file starts at the 16:00:45 mark, where the captain is urging the co-pilot to push the nose down to keep the plane from stalling)

January 13, 1982
Washington D.C.
Air Florida, Flight 90
Boeing B-737-222
N62AF

The aircraft crashed into the 14th St. bridge and the Potomac River and sank shortly after
taking off from Washington National Airport. The aircraft reached a peak altitude of 300 ft.
The flight crew's failure to use the engine anti-icing system during takeoff. Failure to de-ice
the plane a second time before takeoff and taking off with snow/ice on the airfoil surfaces of
the aircraft. Ice which accumulated on the engine pressure probes resulted in erroneously
high Engine Pressure Ratio (EPR) readings. When the throttles were set to takeoff EPR, the
engines were actually developing significantly less than takeoff thrust. Seventy-four out of
79 aboard killed.

CA = Captain
F/O = First Officer
TWR = Tower
15:59:16 CA Given.
15:59:16 F/O Bleeds?
15:59:17 CA They're off.
15:59:18 F/O Strobes, external lights.
15:59:18 CA On.
15:59:19 F/O Anti-skid?
15:59:19 CA On.
15:59:21 F/O Transponder?
15:59:21 CA On.
15:59:24 TWR Palm 90 cleared for takeoff.
15:59:28 TWR No delay on departure if you will, traffic's two and a half out for the runway.
15:59:32 CA Okay, your throttles.
15:59:35 [Sound of engine spool-up]
15:59:49 CA Holler if you need the wipers.
15:59:51 CA It's spooled. Real cold, real cold.
15:59:58 F/O God, look at that thing. That don't seem right, does it? Uh, that's not right
16:00:09 CA Yes it is, there's eighty
16:00:10 F/O Naw, I don't think that's right. Ah, maybe it is.
16:00:21 CA CAM-1 Hundred and twenty.
16:00:23 F/O CAM-2 I don't know
16:00:31 CA Vee-one. Easy, vee-two
16:00:39 [Sound of stickshaker starts and continues until impact]
16:00:41 TWR Palm 90 contact departure control.
16:00:45 CA Forward, forward, easy. We only want five hundred.
16:00:48 CA Come on forward....forward, just barely climb.
16:00:59 CA Stalling, we're falling!
16:01:00 F/O Larry, we're going down, Larry....
16:01:01 CA I know it.
16:01:01 [Sound of impact]

More here: http://www.planecrashinfo.com/lastwords.htm

[cptn_star]

Ma-o gyud, knowing you are listening to dead men. But black box recordings contain invaluable lessons for all airmen out there.

Take for instance this recording of Air Florida 90, which crashed in 1982. It's not too clear throughout but in the end you can hear the pilots saying they knew they were stalling and going down (i.e. crashing).

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/MP3s/rcvraf90.mp3

Here's the transcript and synopsis of the accident

(Note: the MP3 file starts at the 16:00:45 mark, where the captain is urging the co-pilot to push the nose down to keep the plane from stalling)

January 13, 1982
Washington D.C.
Air Florida, Flight 90
Boeing B-737-222
N62AF

The aircraft crashed into the 14th St. bridge and the Potomac River and sank shortly after
taking off from Washington National Airport. The aircraft reached a peak altitude of 300 ft.
The flight crew's failure to use the engine anti-icing system during takeoff. Failure to de-ice
the plane a second time before takeoff and taking off with snow/ice on the airfoil surfaces of
the aircraft. Ice which accumulated on the engine pressure probes resulted in erroneously
high Engine Pressure Ratio (EPR) readings. When the throttles were set to takeoff EPR, the
engines were actually developing significantly less than takeoff thrust. Seventy-four out of
79 aboard killed.

CA = Captain
F/O = First Officer
TWR = Tower
15:59:16 CA Given.
15:59:16 F/O Bleeds?
15:59:17 CA They're off.
15:59:18 F/O Strobes, external lights.
15:59:18 CA On.
15:59:19 F/O Anti-skid?
15:59:19 CA On.
15:59:21 F/O Transponder?
15:59:21 CA On.
15:59:24 TWR Palm 90 cleared for takeoff.
15:59:28 TWR No delay on departure if you will, traffic's two and a half out for the runway.
15:59:32 CA Okay, your throttles.
15:59:35 [Sound of engine spool-up]
15:59:49 CA Holler if you need the wipers.
15:59:51 CA It's spooled. Real cold, real cold.
15:59:58 F/O God, look at that thing. That don't seem right, does it? Uh, that's not right
16:00:09 CA Yes it is, there's eighty
16:00:10 F/O Naw, I don't think that's right. Ah, maybe it is.
16:00:21 CA CAM-1 Hundred and twenty.
16:00:23 F/O CAM-2 I don't know
16:00:31 CA Vee-one. Easy, vee-two
16:00:39 [Sound of stickshaker starts and continues until impact]
16:00:41 TWR Palm 90 contact departure control.
16:00:45 CA Forward, forward, easy. We only want five hundred.
16:00:48 CA Come on forward....forward, just barely climb.
16:00:59 CA Stalling, we're falling!
16:01:00 F/O Larry, we're going down, Larry....
16:01:01 CA I know it.
16:01:01 [Sound of impact]

More here: Last words

hearing and reading about so many incidents and accidents that came from statements like "i dont know", "maybe", "it's right, isnt it?", and so many other terms of doubt, i always keep in mind that if doubt arises, i wouldnt compromise safety...i'd rather suggest to the captain to taxi back to the hangar if i were in the FO's shoes...

[cptn_star]

mga guys if naa pa mo further questions about eroplano, feel free to post em here...master tarmac and the other masters would be glad to enlighten you...

[chryslerkane]

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[cptn_star]

up nato para mosaka...