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  1. #91

    up for the thread.. na busy na gyuyd ko

  2. #92
    up ta ni kay na busy si waterboy0911

  3. #93
    busy gyud kaayo.. sensya kaayo elq.. na timingan..

  4. #94
    tabang lang pud ko up ani.

  5. #95
    aw thanks sa pag up..

  6. #96
    up ko ani kay ganahan kaayo ko ani... been collecting books bout woodworking... lami kaayo pang past time during RD, breaks and holidays... master, asa ta kapalit barato nga wood and mga retaso sad

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy0911 View Post


    woodworking is not equal to PANDAY!

    panday is mata mata.. while woodworker is precision and construction wise..
    this is a very irresponsible derogatory statement to make. ka dakong insulto pud ana sa mga panday oi. do you really regard yourself as the ultimate expert? ka hilas baya nimo doh!
    Last edited by tophat; 07-30-2010 at 11:43 AM.

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by tophat View Post
    this is a very irresponsible derogatory statement to make. ka dakong insulto pud ana sa mga panday oi. do you really regard yourself as the ultimate expert? ka hilas baya nimo doh!
    "do you know what's deep inside electricity?
    but you know how it works and it's benefits... "

    insulto expert? hilas

    we are talking of woodworking here okay...

    everyone is a student.. I can't call my self expert.. I just know things..
    what made you say na naginsulto ko.. tungod sa ang panday is mata mata..
    panday:

    knows how to build things.. construct houses, furniture.... but do they really know the RULE OF LAMINATING WOOD?? DO THEY KNOW HOW WOOD WORKS eg. wood movements, directions?? DO THEY KNOW CHARACTERISTICS OF EACH WOOD it's bending capacity and density? do they know why there is grain grain in wood.. do they know sap wood? do they know why american wood have more clearer grain than our local wood... do they use correct terms??

    rugby for example.. rugby is a BRAND.. IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE CONTACT CEMENT..
    xerox is a COMPANY NAME...

    kung mo ask ka nako why ko naka pangutana ana?? because all of these contributes to the construction of the item.. mao na ang uban diha OVER ENGINEER... kung mag basa lang ka sa forums sa Woodworking Information at WOODWEB.. kung naka ingon ka nako nga nanginsulto ko.. ask it to them... THEY ARE THE GURU of woodworking..

    mao na ang prob nato.. we just do things without doing further research.. "bahala nalang" "pwede ra lagi na"

    woodworkers constructs from every detail. Knows how material works from it's functions and characteristics..

    mao bitaw na sa construction apil gyud sa planning ang pag indicate sa grain directions, type of grains.. now maka ingon ka nga ang panday naay know how ana?

    para nako maka ingon ko nga woodworker ka kung kasabot ka how your materials works.. uses engineering methods..

    maayo ang panday because of their experience.. but sometimes dili lang ingon nga sa panday but in other cases.. wa ta kahibaw nga ang g tudlo nato sakto..

    eg.
    screw dirver g gamit as hummer..
    screw g duk duk ug hummer
    dowels g duk duk ug claw hummer

    some say it's okay because it just works... THERE IS A PROPER TOOL FOR THE PROPER JOB..

    mao na kung ang mga panday nimo mag request ug tools.. mahadlok mi mag purchase unless we teach them how to use them.. kay kung mo palit dayon ka then di sila kabaw mo gamit.. what happens to your TOY??
    now panday pagamiton nimo ug sliding table saw.. sige tanawon nato kinsa di ma kickbackan sa kahoy..

    mao bitaw na dili mi mo hire ug panday kay lisod kaayo e train sa saktong pamaagi.. kay mo supak ug mo ingon nga PWEDE RA MAN GYUD NA KAY SA AMO NG EXPERIENCE NABUHAT RA MAN.. well they are wrong if they did that for years.. they for years they were doing the wrong practices..


    knowing things makes every work easy.. WE ARE NOT EXPERT, I AM NO EXPERT... I JUST KNOW THINGS..

    if you have something to say, now you tell me what's the difference between panday and woodworker..

    wala man sad tawn ta nangita ug away ngari.. if naigo ka.. to me it doesn't matter.. naa ko mga panday nga na amigo nako kay sila ang nag construct sa balay sa ako kuya.. now successful na karon. naa na karon sa newzealand.. PANDAY SILA sa sugod BUT I THOUGHT THEM WELL.... now unsa man sila ngadto.. WOODWORKERS.. why sila woodworkers?? nag take sila ug certification ngadto.. what they just show is just simple things I thought them.. THIS SIMPLE THINGS MADE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOW..

    you might want to play a little game..http://www.finewoodworking.com/pages/WoodworkingIQ.asp I just got average on this.. like I said I just know things..
    Last edited by waterboy0911; 08-01-2010 at 11:53 PM.

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by long4short View Post
    up ko ani kay ganahan kaayo ko ani... been collecting books bout woodworking... lami kaayo pang past time during RD, breaks and holidays... master, asa ta kapalit barato nga wood and mga retaso sad
    sir dili ko master hehehe. basin naa nasd tao ma offend..

    ang question sa gyud nako is for what purpose man nimo? gamiton nimo for furniture? usna man na kahoy ang imong gusto paliton?

    for export nimo or personal use lang..

    Tip.. kung personal lang..
    maka barato ka kung mo palit ta ug (AD)Air Dried wood.. pero check the mc.. ang air dry dapat naa na sa 14-16% kung lapas ana ayaw palit.. mag ka problema ka ana sa wood movement..
    kung (KD) Kiln dry mo range na ug 6-10% MC gyud mahal but gamay lang ang imong problema ani..

    kung mo ask ka nako ug asa.. hmmm try lang magelan bro.. look for ryan.. I think naa na sa first page.. pero daghan pa kaayo options bro.. mangita lang ko lain sad then post lang nako okay.. dili sad ko ka ingon ug barato ang magelan but more or less pareha ra ang prices.. sahay man gud dili ka ka rely sa barato lang kay naay mga tinaguang kabuang..

    naa ka mga woodworking magazines?? bro nice pud ra ba ang The Art Of Woodworking magazine collections..

  10. #100
    Hello Waterboy,

    Looks like you do have a vast network of contacts and valuable knowledge about woodworking. Can u please help me with log cabins/houses? Asa kuha ug supplier ana? Ang unsay maayo advice nimo before ta patukod ug ingon ani nga material? I have other questions pa aside from this, hope wala ko ma OT ani nga thread. Thanks.

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