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    wla pa diay mo ka sakai ug bus nga bogoi2 ang driver..hehe mao2 ra oi.. sa S.. G ang mga parak e banga sa posti..

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    Quote Originally Posted by -shinobi- View Post
    be better? pila pa kaha ka tuig... aw hinoon kung hinay2 lang maka abot ra put ta ana. may unta..
    I've posted the years already... 50 yrs. that's how long it takes. but there's lots of things that can happen in 50 yrs...

    china is 11. something... look at them now.?

    a president might jeopardize our economy. if only we don't have debts right now. we might have been considered one of the progressive countries in asia.

    who knows about the write off proposal for Cory Aquino here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    if ok pagka dala ang gobyerno, do you think the people will complain?

    lahi ra ng tao nga cge og complain pero walay gibuhat sa tao nga cge complain ky basn unsa na iyang gi buhat og kahago, wa gihapon ni asenso ang pinas tungod sa mga tao nga nagdala sa gobyerno nga walay ayu...

    there will never be a perfect goverment nor perfect governance. Even strong countries like United States and Singapore naa gihapoy mga problema with the government. di gyud na mahutdan og ikareklamo ang mga tawo. But why are they economically strong? because their people work hard para mulambo ang ilang country. yes, they also find fault with their leaders. wa guy tawo nga perfect. samot na gobyerno. but there's a difference between someone who complains but does not do anything and someone who keeps on working despite it all. kung atong timbangon ang kadaghanon sa mga taw nga nagcomplain nga way gibuhat og nagcomplain maski naay gibuhat, which of the two groups will you think will outweigh? ang idealism and hard work sa mga Pinoy na outweigh ra sa mga nag tungok lang and nagsalig sa gobyerno.

    dapat kita pud unta maghuna huna unsa atong matabang sa Pilipinas og dili unsay matabang sa Pilipinas nato. kuwang kaayo ta sa patriotism. mag isig ka daotay ang mga taw, people pointing fingers at one another, sigeg panghinaw, constantly looking out who's to blame. diha pa lang daot na ta, samot na ang paglambo sa nasud.


    it's like nagsalig ta sa atong mama nga mu provide nato sa atong panginahanglan but in return wa nato siya tabangi og respetoa or pasalamatan man lang, gidaot paman gani. kana wa jud tay padulngan hehehe.
    Last edited by anjerika; 03-16-2011 at 09:22 AM.

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    hahaha..malingaw man ko ani oi..naminaw ko gahapon sa radio (RMN manila) and naay ni text ni Atty. Aga Arellano. ingon ang texter nga wa nay pag-asa ang pinas, tubag dayon si Atty Aga then you should kill yourself if you think wa na juy pag-asa ang pinas..wahaha..there is still hope, if we start now. start it with ourselves. Disiplina ang kinahanglan nato..

    & note: Becareful what you wish you...nindot kaayo diri sa china but if ang mga tao diri imo pangutan-on daghan gihapon kaayo sila reklamo. daghan butang wa nato mahibaw-i...datu najud ang china & maybe mahimo jud silang no. 1 soon, because of political will. but i will assure you nga naa gihapoy moreklamo..hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightzlayer View Post
    Sos ayaw nalng ko anang mo work ta pra mo asenso ta diha sa pinas!... i am working 15 yrs in so called Philippines my mother land. If you are an ordinary employee, even if you will work 12 hours a day with a standard minimum wage of 300php. Dli na mka support sa imong family and esp. married kah...
    E deduct ang transportation nmu bro, snacks, meal, kulang jud.

    So in short, gov't should play a major rule in our country's economy and growth. In short, ang mga business man and company owner lng ang mo asenso sa pinas coz politicians are in favor to them. They are the big fish in our country.


    di jud ta kaingon ani sir, kay kung kaning mga negosyanteha wa magtukod og negosyo, samot kadaghan og jobless sa Pilipinas... imagine if the company you are working for right now did not exist, you will need to compete with other professionals in the same field you are para maka sud ka sa uban nga kompanya. imagine one business providing jobs to a thousand employees, that's already a big help kaysa way trabaho masudlan. unemployment rate in the Phils. would be worse kung gamay rag business establisments diri. May na lang gani naay foreign investors, at least madungagan ang pag generate og mga jobs sa Pilipinas.


    and reality is that with a job, limited gyud ang finances. you can never earn more than what you are worth in a job kay fixed jud ang sweldo. that's why kaingon ta nga ang mga negosyante ra pirmi madato because in businesses there is unlimited income - tanang hago nimo, imoha unlike sa job we only make our bosses rich while we still receive the same amount sa atong paycheck. even an additional raise will still be not enough sa atong needs.

    if businesses in Phils. are up, the economy will also go up and makahig ang reputation sa politiko og apil. i think usa na sa mga reason nga suod ang politiko sa mga negosyante coz businessmen are the big players in the country's economy.
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    @anjerika: i agree.. we need more businessmen sa pinas. ang sayop sa ato Gov't (& sayop sad nato apil nako..hehehe) is ang growing number of OFWs. if naa palay pride ang pinoy (tanan ha businessmen, politiko, OFWs, stambay..etc) wa natay mga OFW or gamay ra jud kaayo.mokosog ato local economy because ang mga Foreign investors di naman kahire og pinoy outside, meaning ang ato gov't maningkamot og hatag og mga tax credit/tang-tang na ang red tape sa mga foreign investors para sa pinas na sila magtukod og company. But i am sure daghan di mosugot ani kay hayahay man sa gawas gud..wehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by anjerika View Post
    there will never be a perfect goverment nor perfect governance. Even strong countries like United States and Singapore naa gihapoy mga problema with the government. di gyud na mahutdan og ikareklamo ang mga tawo. But why are they economically strong? because their people work hard para mulambo ang ilang country. yes, they also find fault with their leaders. wa guy tawo nga perfect. samot na gobyerno. but there's a difference between someone who complains but does not do anything and someone who keeps on working despite it all. kung atong timbangon ang kadaghanon sa mga taw nga nagcomplain nga way gibuhat og nagcomplain maski naay gibuhat, which of the two groups will you think will outweigh? ang idealism and hard work sa mga Pinoy na outweigh ra sa mga nag tungok lang and nagsalig sa gobyerno.

    dapat kita pud unta maghuna huna unsa atong matabang sa Pilipinas og dili unsay matabang sa Pilipinas nato. kuwang kaayo ta sa patriotism. mag isig ka daotay ang mga taw, people pointing fingers at one another, sigeg panghinaw, constantly looking out who's to blame. diha pa lang daot na ta, samot na ang paglambo sa nasud.


    it's like nagsalig ta sa atong mama nga mu provide nato sa atong panginahanglan but in return wa nato siya tabangi og respetoa or pasalamatan man lang, gidaot paman gani. kana wa jud tay padulngan hehehe.
    Baliktad man ang imong rason. The people are like that because of what their government did, they weren't born that way and aren't innately hardworking. Every good Singaporean attribute you mentioned is a direct result of good governance.

    Singaporeans are hardworking, but they are not innately hardworking. They weren't born that way, they were made that way. First, by the education system provided for by their government, which is one of the most rigorous and well-funded systems in the world. Second, by the pro-business laws passed by their parliament, which instead of coddling workers, encourages them to work hard and improve their skills, encouraging foreign investors instead of scaring them off. Third, by ruthless adherence to national military service, to drill in nationalism into the psyche of their people.

    The Philippine leadership, under the guise of false democracy and hypocrisy encourage almost the complete opposite. First, our education system has been driven to the ground, and the students learn bad habits from teachers who are perennially late, absent or just not in the mood to teach because of low salaries, lack of facilities and bad working conditions. Second, our congressmen continue to pass pro-labor, anti-business, and xenophobic laws under the false guise of caring for the poor and national interest, creating a spoiled labor force and a toxic business environment with high wages combined with unproductive workforce that scares off foreign investors and makes life difficult for local businessmen. Third, instead of creating a professional military our government has created a kleptocratic one, an extension of the already extensive corruption within the other branches of government, making our country weak and vulnerable to outside invasion.

    You say that a people can thrive in spite of bad government, I say good leadership is required to create good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    @anjerika: i agree.. we need more businessmen sa pinas. ang sayop sa ato Gov't (& sayop sad nato apil nako..hehehe) is ang growing number of OFWs. if naa palay pride ang pinoy (tanan ha businessmen, politiko, OFWs, stambay..etc) wa natay mga OFW or gamay ra jud kaayo.mokosog ato local economy because ang mga Foreign investors di naman kahire og pinoy outside, meaning ang ato gov't maningkamot og hatag og mga tax credit/tang-tang na ang red tape sa mga foreign investors para sa pinas na sila magtukod og company. But i am sure daghan di mosugot ani kay hayahay man sa gawas gud..wehehehe
    You misunderstood the point of OFWs working abroad.

    ever wonder why they are called the new heroes of our new age? they don't have taxes to pay in our country? because they play a big part in our economy to progress. why do you think our government is so eager to send them out on different countries? that's because they play a big part in getting funds for our country's economy. imagine there are no OFW's, No imported Goods, no foreign investors (because they will never know what we are capable of if we don't send one pinoy in their country.) no tourists. How can we ever pay our debts in IMF and World Bank? where do we get other currencies?

    they really do have a big part in our economic advancements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Baliktad man ang imong rason. The people are like that because of what their government did, they weren't born that way and aren't innately hardworking. Every good Singaporean attribute you mentioned is a direct result of good governance.

    Singaporeans are hardworking, but they are not innately hardworking. They weren't born that way, they were made that way. First, by the education system provided for by their government, which is one of the most rigorous and well-funded systems in the world. Second, by the pro-business laws passed by their parliament, which instead of coddling workers, encourages them to work hard and improve their skills, encouraging foreign investors instead of scaring them off. Third, by ruthless adherence to national military service, to drill in nationalism into the psyche of their people.

    The Philippine leadership, under the guise of false democracy and hypocrisy encourage almost the complete opposite. First, our education system has been driven to the ground, and the students learn bad habits from teachers who are perennially late, absent or just not in the mood to teach because of low salaries, lack of facilities and bad working conditions. Second, our congressmen continue to pass pro-labor, anti-business, and xenophobic laws under the false guise of caring for the poor and national interest, creating a spoiled labor force and a toxic business environment with high wages combined with unproductive workforce that scares off foreign investors and makes life difficult for local businessmen. Third, instead of creating a professional military our government has created a kleptocratic one, an extension of the already extensive corruption within the other branches of government, making our country weak and vulnerable to outside invasion.

    You say that a people can thrive in spite of bad government, I say good leadership is required to create good people.

    i agree with you sir. i may have gotten my point shallow. good leadership is required to create good people. but we cannot change our politicians' attitudes. wa natay mahimo sa ilang batasan. if we keep on making rallies to oust them to place better ones, we don't know if we will be able to instill a good one. kapila na ta na disappoint sa atong mga na elect nga leaders so di gyud ta kaingon kanus-a muabot ang maayo gyud nga leader sa atoa. kung ing-ana ta we will forever be wishing on a star kanus-a mulambo ang pilipinas kung magsalig lang ta sa atong leaders. so the least we can do is become good as individuals (which is yes, hard and too good to be true) pero reality is we can never change other people, only ourselves.

    even if Lee Kwan Yew becomes president of the Philippines, i think we will still not progress. because we don't yet have the vision, the habits and discipline necessary to make the country succeed. pag too pa lang gani daan nga mulambo ta, di nato ma imagine? unsaon pa pagka hitabo ana. hehehe. everything starts with a thought. we can't realize something we can't visualize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntitaniC View Post
    You misunderstood the point of OFWs working abroad.

    ever wonder why they are called the new heroes of our new age? they don't have taxes to pay in our country? because they play a big part in our economy to progress. why do you think our government is so eager to send them out on different countries? that's because they play a big part in getting funds for our countries economy. imagine there are no OFW's, No imported Goods, no foreign investors (because they will never know what we are capable of if we don't send one pinoy in their country.) no tourists. How can we ever pay our debts in IMF and World Bank? where do we get other currencies?

    they really do have a big part in our economic advancements.

    OT naman ni hehe: sorry bai but i stand on what i believe in. I am an OFW myself & clearly i understand how it is (being one).i agree on some of your points but not all. Like i said if ONLY we have pride..example bai naa pa kay nakit-an nga DH nga Korean/japanese/singaporean nga nagwork outside sa ila country? wa diba? tungod na sa government bai. of course ganahan ang Gov't nato nga manglarga ang mga Pinoys as OFW kay tungod sa funds nga mapadala nila sa pinas. Kung ni focus lang unta ang Govt sa pagdevelop sa local economy bai we could have became richer than singapore & paid our debts. take a look at China, kinahanglan diay sila magpadala og tao sa gawas sa china para molambo ila country? they are developed their local economy para makaattract sa mga taga gawas nga mosulod sa china. I am thinking of the problem as a whole bai, dili partial mao naka ingon ko nga mas maayo nga wa na untay OFW. naa man jud potential ang pinas, think hard bai kinsa man ang mga Datu sa pinas, pure pinoy ba? they saw the potential why can't we? hehehe

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