The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

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educating the people that having unprotected *** can get you pregnant and get STDs?

Uhuh. If that's what they need to know, and if that's what it takes to crack this nut, then so be it.

[Plukaking]

antiquated pa diay kaayo ta dinha with things that really matters?

...we're so up-to-date with the latest technology, toys and gadgets...

pero simple nga problema...to control unwanted pregnancies and curb down population growth...wa pa gihapon ta kakuha? ato gihapong lisod-lisoron ug complex nga opinions, noh?

aguy, aguy...kalu-oy...

[cyclops]

... this is getting really interesting.

I just like what you guys said, we'd have to consider A LOT of factors.

factors like;
1. everytime you go to church you think ***.... ?

[Plukaking]

abi nako ingon ang church no pre-marital ***...

unya *** man jed gusto's mga tawo...

ingon na sad ang church no proteksyon...

cge lang dli ang church...pero cge sad dawat sa wawarts...

sakto lagi to ilang gi.ingon...

ang true concern sa RC is... the bigger the population the bigger the collection...

[Bada ! Bing]

church lagi...kay apil-apilon sa government affairs bsag way labot...

[Bada ! Bing]

ang inyo mga irresponsible DICK mao responsible oi..dili ang church..hehe

kung naay mo sawo^ sa tiktik nga mogawas sa imong DICK ug spermicide nga mopatay sa imong tiktik para di mamabdos ang babaje...way problema sa populasyon sa katawhan...unya ngano'ng way condom, pills, ug uban pa nga available sa katawhan hilabi na sa mga pobre?

coz d church said no...duh!

[gareb]

Apo ni Barabas:

we agree on the operational definition of what is 'overpopulation' which of course is a condition of unsustainability of the need of a population that results in an increase of the said population.

both definitions that you have given are complex enough; the first being more complex than the two.

we have this mistaken idea man gud that overpopulation simply means 'daghan ug tawo', and limits the definition of the term strictly within the confines of population count. this idea is simplistic and does not offer us anything new rather than how many people are there. what is worse, it actually limits our perception of what overpopulation is and when we can call something as 'overpopulated' which incidentally is included in the very definition of overpopulation.

overpopulation - to increase the population of a place so much that the amount of space, food, water, or other resources available to support it is insufficient

with the definition that you have provided, this is not necessarily just about the size of the population. so we can never limit our views merely on the reduction of the population. it is inherent in the definition that you gave that overpopulation is relative to the capability of a certain location(or the institutions overseeing the population and the area) to provide for the needs of that population. this automatically injects an economic dimension to the problem of overpopulation.

we have to remember that we can only call a place as 'overpopulated' if the resources in the area can no longer sustain the population. even if there is a large number of people in an area, as long as the resources that can be gathered is enough, that does not technically render it 'overpopulated'. but in a simplistic view where only the size of a population is seen as basis for overpopulation, natrurally, an area with many people is deemed as 'overpopulated' even if they can sustain themselves.

i hope you do not get the idea that i am agruing that the country is 'not overpopulated'. i think it is because we cannot sustain the population with the current economic policies being implemented. but even if these economic policies be reversed, the population growth rate will negate its effects. that is why i am advocating for the use of contraceptives and family planning now. along with that, is of course, the multi-lateral solution attacking the problem of overpopulation in many sides.

[gareb]

1.) I dont think the majority of pinoys lack education, in fact we are the highly educated nation in the world. So, we need to disqualify this factor.

we are talking about '*** education and family planning' here, which does not necessarily correpsond to academics being taught from grade 1 to college.

go to the communities of the urban and rural poor and listen to the many misconceptions, myths and fears they have against artificial contraceptives and you'll see just how badly we need this kind of education... the kind of education that the church is against... especially when it deals with atrificial contraceptives.

2.) Comparing to other catholic nations like Ireland and other European countries. You can't have so many kids in those " Ice cold" countries or your kids will end up in welfare. So, we cant compare pinas with euros.

the comparison that kurdapya gave was a comparison done in context to their religious faith if indeed it is that big a factor. it is a commonly made error that climate has anything to do with population growth rate. the welfare system is quite irrelevant in the problem of overpopulation really, unless if you post the 'welfare system' as a deterrent factor against having too many children.

3.) Most pinoys go to church everyday, sundays whatever. We hear the same gospel, embanghilyo sa pari, unya we also see our girl friends who looks very pretty and get distracted by these and we think about *** all the time. the the priest will say " go to the world and multiply".

this is funny, but it assumes too much. it is as if this is the scenario that happens most the time which causes people to produce many children. and what about those societies which have been observed to 'overpopulate' but does not necessarily observe the catholic faith?

indeed, if the scenario that you present is true, the stereotype that you present of the Filipino as 'highly educated' does not jive in well with the portrayal here.

i am a psychology major. admittedly there is a psychological axis in the problem of overpopulation. but even books on psychology raise their hands and admit that overpopulation mainly is rooted on varying degrees of economic, political and cultural factors. other disciplines (anthropology and sociology) agree with this.

[giver_bert]

hahay.. magbinisaya nalang sad ko ha...

honestly kaning atong mindset na i basi nato ang atong gipangbuhat tungod sa nasulti sa bibliya na "go to the world and multiply" unsa kaha na.. dili ba kaha ni gigamit lang nato na excuse para matagaan nato ug justice ning atong biga?? unsa kaha? sa panahon na ni enter ka, mao ba na ang imong gi huna huna? or mao nalang na imong gi silbe na rason para at least ma kuha kuha-an ug gamay ning atong sayop? ang tao man gud by nature kay mangita gyd ug lusot no? bisan ug nakibaw gyd ta na kani tungod lang gyd ni sa atong pagkairesponsable!!

mga undo ug inday, sa unang higayon mo uyon ko sa opinyon ni Gareb... kaning overpopulation, sa ako nang gisulti kay resulta lang ni siya or usa rani siya ka component sa usa ka chain of problems... mao na sa ako na gikaingon na dili lang nato masulbad ning problema kung e address ang solution sa usa lang ka hinungdan ani.. DILI MAN NATO MALIMOD NA ANG SIMBAHAN ADUNA GUY'Y SHARE SA PROBLEMA SA OVERPOPULATION, pero ang aksyon na ato rumbuhon ang simbahan na as if mao ray hinungdan ani.. kana dili gyd na siguro makatarunganon...

[Bada ! Bing]

hahay.. magbinisaya nalang sad ko ha...

may pag mag bisaya ka, dong. sayon pa ka sabton.

DILI MAN NATO MALIMOD NA ANG SIMBAHAN ADUNA GUY'Y SHARE SA PROBLEMA SA OVERPOPULATION...

sakto.

and dats all we need to know.

tenk yu!