The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

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Well, let me stress that the Church is also an advocate of family planning... that is the natural one since they believe that using artificial family planning is equivalent to abortion whichi is fine because that is what they believe in. However, any kind of contraceptive will not be effective if the Filipino people will not discipline themselves and choose to be responsible and let me say, vigilant is using or adapting any kind of contraceptive.

[d_lightt]

this country isn't over populated. it just looks that way because land isn't equally distributed among the people. kita ka anang mga datu daghan kau mga yuta wa'y namuyo, except a handful they hired cguro to watch over it. the church has nothing to do with over population. they're just pro-life. naa ra man na sa mga taw pila ila gusto anak.

[kurdapya]

it's not overpopulated? are you sure about that? look around you...please, i hope you're not in denial guys...and yes, the Church has done NOTHING to help!


Please READ below and discern...

"Successful countries became so, in part, because the growth of the population was at a pace that support services could provide for and, hence, individual wealth could grow more rapidly. Fewer people sharing the national wealth are richer—and so spend more on high value-added products, helping drive the economy up.

Thailand had 38.9 million people in 1972, the same as the Philippines. Today, Thailand has 60 million people, the Philippines an official 78 million (and probably, almost certainly, considerably more). Thais average US$1,960 per capita, the Philippines is struggling at US$1,020. And it will be another 30 years before the Philippines meets
the Thai’s modest level.

[size=14px]A fast-growing population is a primary reason.[/size]

I know this is a contentious subject and do not wish to discuss the theological view. But the constitution clearly delineates between Church and State because the State must be responsible for the people’s well -being/quality of life. And of all Filipinos, not just Catholics. The Church has
the more limited responsibility for the moral values and religious beliefs of its flock. What must be pointed out is what is inevitable if the current rate of population growth continues.

[size=14px]And that is that there will be 160 MILLION FILIPINOS BY 2030 [/size]

The Philippines, demonstrably, can’t support 78 million. 160 million will be, quite simply, disastrous (over 4 million tons of rice was imported this year).

Better education gives educated parents the capability of understanding the importance of education for their own children and the need to have only those children they can afford. Over time, this leads to lower population growth rates. However, it is very slow.

The Philippines is in a population growth crisis, and cannot afford generational change any more than can Africa. And that will be the comparison if population growth doesn’t slow.

THE PHILIPPINES IS I N A POPULATION GROWTH CRISIS

The State should provide the option and accessibility to family planning as a responsibility to the society it serves. It should then be up to the Church to convince its flock not to accept practices they believe go against God’s wishes.

But the Church should perhaps reflect on why other Catholic countries seem able to allow family planning–or, at least, not try to stop it so vociferously. The home of Christianity, Italy, has a modest population growth (a population growth rate of 0.2% versus the Philippines 2.4%) so why not the Philippines.

On this issue, the Philippines seems to be at odds with its other Roman Catholic compatriots. It is the world’s fastest growing population,
outside of Malaysia, Nigeria and Pakistan. And the fastest growing Catholic country, although Venezuela comes close, at 2.4% with Mexico
and Peru slightly behind (each at 2.0%). Otherwise all other redominantly Catholic countries exhibit growths of a high of 1.7% to negative 0.3% (Hungary). With most below 1%. Catholic countries don’t have to have high growth rates.

CATHOLIC COUNTRIES DON’T HAVE TO HAVE HIGH GROWTH RATES

No one can deny that Italy or Ireland aren’t staunchly Catholic—yet their populations are growing at only 0.2% and 0.5% respectively. Even Rome the center of Catholicism is growing at less than half the Philippines rate –1.2%.

The logical conclusion is that the Philippine Catholic church could do more to help parents better plan their families—without violating Church strictures on how this should be done.

If the Church believes people are entitled to a decent life, as I certainly hope it does, then it ought to become a (very) active participant in reducing the population growth rate through methods it accepts. Otherwise it must accept part of the responsibility of the poverty that will remain unavoidable. And provide the jobs and support for that excess poor..."

taken from http://www.dataphil.com/special%20re...the%20phil.PDF

[greenarcher22]

unsa guni istoryaha... the church is not to be blame and besides.nobody needs to get the permission of the church before you do it. its your will.. your choice .. your pleasure.

[gareb]

it would be very simplistic to attribute the church for the problem of overpopulation in the country. even if the staunch "go forth and multiply" stand of the catholic church may be a factor, i believe the problem is not as simple and as unilinear as we would like to believe it is.

population growth, as a fact, is NOT DEPENDENT solely on the predominantly practiced religion of a country or a community, but on socio-economic factors that are at work. industrialized countries (read: rich countries) have their demographics suggesting an aging population, vacillating from very little growth, no growth, or even decline.

http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/ageing/agewpop1.htm

with the data available, we can safely conclude therefore, that the causal link between poverty and overpopulation is two-way rather than one-way as suggested by traditional malthusian models.

this means that poverty produces overpopulation as much as overpopulation produces poverty. the factors that are at work are quite varied, but it is already accepted that a tripod of major factors exist that could influence the direction of events; political, economic and cultural. religion, being a cultural construct, is but one of the factors.

the unilinear hypothesis that overpopulation is a product of mere cultural constructs (i.e. religion) is abruptly silenced by what kurdapya has presented wherein italy ireland, both predominantly catholic countries have very low population growth rates. the cause, then, lies elsewhere and not merely on religion

[d_lightt]

it's not overpopulated? are you sure about that? look around you...please, i hope you're not in denial guys...

i'm quite sure we're not overpopulated. it just looks that way because of the unequal land distribution. most rich people own vast tracts of land, and the rich compose of only a small percentage of the population. in other words, the vast tracts of land belong to only a small percentage of the population. the majority or the rest of the population settle with what's left of the land - that's why they sort of look "crowded".

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the church is not the "cause" of overpopulation. it's true that church promotes the whole "go forth and multiply" thing, but it's ridiculous to think that they mean for others to "multiply" so much and eventually cause overpopulation. that just can't be the will of God.

[xypher009]

this country isn't over populated. it just looks that way because land isn't equally distributed among the people. kita ka anang mga datu daghan kau mga yuta wa'y namuyo, except a handful they hired cguro to watch over it. the church has nothing to do with over population. they're just pro-life. naa ra man na sa mga taw pila ila gusto anak.

the issue na lang siguro here is not about the country and its land not being equally distributed among its people coz we cannot do anything about that..do u think those "imperialist" would be willing to give out their lands..nah!!! in your dreams! I still would say that the church has one way or the other affected the rapid increase of our population and i believe we are overpopulated and even if u say were not, wait 10 or more years... yes, the church is pro-life and i commend them for that but life starts only when an egg cell and sperm cell meet right? and preventing the two from meeting will not of course create life...think of it buddy!!!

[d_lightt]

oki. my mistake, we ARE indeed overpopulated due to poverty and mainly due to lack of education of the people. but the church did not say "go forth and multiply so much so that there shall be overpopulation". the church intended moderation. the sperm cell and egg cell will always meet. but it is up to the couple to decide whether they do the whole process to let them "meet".

[BeoR]

in some ways, the church contributes to our growing population problem. while I agree that natural methods can be as good as "unnatural" ones, most couples who rely only on natural methods are bound to conceive. we must put into consideration the psychological and physical factors when making love as it is not as simple as some of you may think. for those who are in love, the process involves factors like acceptance, respect, intimacy, etc... and of course the physical aspect of it comes into play. it is a moment where self-control is almost non-existent. "unnatural" methods on the other hand lets couples make love however they like with all the factors to make it worthwhile untouched while having a blanket of security that they won't conceive.

in my opinion, education alone isn't enough as most people tend to get lost in limbo while making love.

[kurdapya]

abstinence, anyone? i didn't think so...all talk and no actions...of course, it's against nature...ang iro naa man gani biga^...

the church does not allow contraceptives...duh!

but are they offering any realistic and effective solutions?

sige'g pailad ni pader damaso...