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  1. #161

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!


    Im not an expert on Marx, but i hope to give an explanation from my liitle bit of knowledge on his Philosophy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan
    -- I doubt it. Its going to be suicide, collateral damage if you will.


    Maybe to some people you can call Communism a recipe.Then again, some people have a strange appetite for destruction.
    really weird statement from Dayuhan i dont want to explain myself again with the same flavor of arguments.

    But for pnoize2k6 which actually merits an answer, so here it goes, considering the limited knowledge i have on the subject


    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize2k6
    imagine, the philippines which has just gotten out of a 20-year dictatorship now has to go into another revolution of sorts to become a marxist country, which by the way has never been obtain for the last hmmm....70 years.

    Can you imagine the disaster it will do to our economy?


    again, Modern Communism of Marx was never attained by any State in History I hope to make that clear. Russia was a Socialist so was China.What would it do to our economy? It would naturally change because communism itself is not merely a Government Concept but also an Economic Concept. By this time, there would be no more Kapitalism that is if Communism is attained.

    Well on Cuba, its another story.... its a Socialist State, and i have my reservations against Cuba. It is ot a communist State.

    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize2k6
    here's a thought...

    do you think that we could actually post freely if we were a communist country?
    yes we could. because communism is not a dictatorship neither is it a fascist state and above all it is not totalitarian state. So yes we could. there is freedom actuallly,and it is this very notion of Freedom in Marx's Communism that supports the objective of his Philosophy and that is towards the Self-Actualization of Man. Now is it not a noble cause?

  2. #162

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan
    -- I doubt it. Its going to be suicide, collateral damage if you will.

    Maybe to some people you can call Communism a recipe.Then again, some people have a strange appetite for destruction.
    Yes of course! we can freely do what we want as long as humane and can't harm individuals.

  3. #163

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    A big NO!

  4. #164

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    Yes of course! we can freely do what we want as long as humane and can't harm individuals.
    Ah yes, freedom and humane acts. Words coming out from individuals whos resort for world harmony is head-on armed conflict with whoever is in oppose with them, all in vain.

  5. #165

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    well yes. again i would like to point out my disagreement with Marx on the Armed Struggle. Pero ang armed struggle is merely a transition to communism and not communism itself.

  6. #166

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    Arms struggle....it will only lead to more chaos.......do you think if the CPP/NDF/NPA will win will bring peace to our country? Certainly not........another arm struggle will rise that will contradict CPP will follow and then instead of a communist state, we will be reduced to a barbaric state...........
    Mao nang dapat majority rules jud........naay uban mga others kaayo....maghimo jud ug ila...........

  7. #167

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    But the armed struggle would not be geared to political aims..but social aims. ANyways, the CPP/NDF is not the best proponent for Communism. It is not the Communism of Marx but that of Mao + JoMa.

  8. #168

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan
    Ah yes, freedom and humane acts. Words coming out from individuals whos resort for world harmony is head-on armed conflict with whoever is in oppose with them, all in vain.
    Ha? Kaila ka ug Class War? The Child doesn't support Marx armED Struggle, but what Marx stated was a scientific explanation why people will render to armed themselves, there are Armed Communist Organization all over the world, the EZLN, the Nepal COmmunist and the Argentinian Revolutionaries, they choose the Armed Struggle cause that is what they believe. Ikaw what opinion or baruganan man kaha?

    We are discussing COmmunism and please give ideas sad manoy, ther is a rule of peace...If you prepare for peace, be ready for war.

    Revolutionary War is a political, economical, cultural crisis.

    War on Aggression, are war waged by Bush and GMA. See the difference between these.

    @ BCASABEE...

    please construct your thoughts sa be, maglibug ko da sa imong ideas. Unsa mn nang others bah, klaroha kuno ayaw pag sobra ka subjective sa butang, be objective naman sad oi, bisan gamay. (Ug ARMED STRUGGLE lagi, dili ARMS, sa man ni bugno sa bukton?)

  9. #169

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    aw armed struggle diay...sori ha....engineering graduate ra man gud tawn....hina ug inglis....sori sori.....

  10. #170

    Default Re: Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

    Philippine situation, is not ready for a Communist state, ngano, dili pa bug-os nasabtan ang unod sa unsa ang Komunismo, wa pa man gnai ta kasabut sa Nasyunalismo ang pagka Komunismo na ba kaha.

    Philippines is dominated by few but kusgan nga mga tawo under the influence of the super power nations, they maintain our nation to become and as stable as what we are right now to make us their labayanan of surplus products.

    Our economy is dependent on IMF-WB, our politics were based onn American pattern, our Culture sucks and Colonial Mentality is the fad since the time of Aguinaldo.

    Because of this basic factors, Philippines should be free from this influence, kung naa man gani mga rebolusyonaryo nga ganahana mawala ni, dili Komyunismo ang ipakuyanap, kung dili ang Nationalist Democratic Revolution mao na, para kita na ang makabuot sa atong ganahan without the influence of US of A and the other Imperialist state.

    Makapili kita sa atong ganahan mamahimong lider, dili ang kaugalingon kung naa gani kwarta maoy ganahan mamahimong lider.

    Dili nato ipugos ang pagka Komunismo sa ato kay kinahanglan kana og proseso, dili mubo apan taas og halapad. Pero dili sad ilangay langay kay kita ang madaut ug mahutdan na kita og mga ngilngig nga mga tawo, nga mag nursing na lang para maka abroad sa gawas. ( not degrading the nurses but that was the mind set of people as of now).

    Kung maabot sa panahon nga hinog na ang Pinas padulong sa pagka Komunismo then, mao na na ang panahon hain ang kalbutan luwas na sa mga mapahimuslanon.[br]Posted on: September 13, 2006, 02:07:30 PM_________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee
    aw armed struggle diay...sori ha....engineering graduate ra man gud tawn....hina ug inglis....sori sori.....
    oh crap! it is excusable, but please site an idea naman pud ser, engineer.

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