What can you say about too much 'Pinoy Pride'?

[akosabni]

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dili ko mahibong ani ... we treat each other as part of the family ... we call almost anyone who is older as kuya/ate or tita/tito if their coming from another generation ... even our top 2 tv networks call their viewers as kapamilya or kapuso ... so pinoy can't help it but have that pride, 'coz its somehow personal already

for me, ma high lang for the moment (can't help it, pinoy man sab ta), than back to reality

[ongkal]

Dont get me wrong bro. Im proud of my nationality. Im proud of pacquiao, donaire, charice, the azkals, and all fil-fors who are also proud of their filipino roots like lou philips diamond, batista, rob schneider, etc. if you read the title i said too much pinoy pride

ang ako lang nabantayan ba, the way some pinoys proclaim their pride ba kay usahay over the top na. it goes to the point where it borders racism na. nga makarealize ka nga if you were not filipino, makaask jud ka nga "why? cant the americans sing/dance/box? cant the british sing/dance/box? cant the the chinese sing/dance/box, cant the [insert nationality here] [insert skill here]?"

nindot kaayo iingon sa kapwa pinoy nga, frankfly, noone cares man jud what the nationality is as long as the skill or talent is there. ang gawas nuon kay makaingon ang uban nationalities nga are we really that attention hungry?

the sad part is kasagaran nga inani maglead baya dayon to racist remarks from others but i dont blame them kay inig basa sa posts, arrogant naman kaayo paminawn ang uban pinoy remarks gud.

just right now, in one youtube video, a pinoy used the words niggers and beaners just because donaire won. di kaha ka mauwaw ana? proud kaayo siya nga pinoy siya ug inana ang batasan nga iya gipakita? and mao jud baya na pirmi mabasahan basta naay mga pacquiao or other filipino boxer videos. mao sad nay nahitabo sa uban azkals videos. i know its just a small percentage but since proud ko nga pinoy ko, di ko ganahan nga makitan in a bad light ang Filipinos.

para ra ni nako ha pero murag the more maginana ta, mura na hinuon nga wa na tay lain maproudan as a Filipino. nga mura na hinuon tag mga pasikat. for me, too much pinoy pride makes us elitist. it makes us racist. Whats more is it makes us blind nga daghan pag issues kinahanlan ifix sa atong country para makaingon ta nga dapat jud ta maproud.

thanks diay bay sa imong mga insights sa akong mga gipost.

well let me ponder my point of views also....

I know nga daghan tingali masuko sa kani nga thread pero murag nasobraan naman ang mga pinoy ug kaarrogante kung magingon ani oi oi.

-how did you based your so called na subra-an? because you've read a lot of proud comments in the internet? well let me ask you, what if nobody cared? do you think you won't make a thread that has a title "why is it people don't care to support Filipinos?"


Im sure kadaghan na mo kita sa youtube, mga forums, ug uban pa diha. kung naay musikat nga pinoy or half pinoy ang mga ipangcomment sa mga taw kay 'pinoy pride!', 'proud to be pinoy', 'thats filipino, baby!' ug uban pa diha. frankly, the other nationalities dont care. they like them for their skills or talents.

of course you will see them there. its a forum it's a website. you expect people will be there for a purpose. and purpose of being proud of their race, their country, probably that's their way of stress reliever. who are we to judge what makes them happy?

dili ba nasobraan ra atong pagkaproud? you dont see americans saying 'american pride!' or chinese saying 'chinese pride'. katong nidaog ang indonesian-american nga si obama, you dont see or read 'indonesian pride' sa mga websites.

what if kung mo sobra? ma sakto? kaisa mag kuwang? or walay paki?

why do you think there's world cup or Olympics? it's there for entertainment. its there to determine who's the best among the rest. and be proud that they really are the best.

its getting crazy. sa mga website or videos about pinoy boxers, wrestlers, singing sensations, ug uban pang pinoy nga unsa diha, naa man juy daghang manghambog nga pinoy this and pinoy that. matod pa sa isa nga nabasahan nako nga post after daghan kaayo nakakita ug 'pinoy pride' comments, niana ang isa ka viewer nga "yes, manny pacquiao is the best boxer but im beginning to see that you Filipinos are the cockiest fantards in the world". sadly, i couldnt help but agree.

LOL that's just one view point of a jealous bastard. I'm sure if you really know the man who posted it personally... he's a fantard too.. in some other sports probably.

we can compare it to NBA,BASEBALL and NFL every state has it's own fantards.... and SO WHAT? its fun to be included to a winning fantards. rather be one of the jealous losers. LOL

ang nakapait sad kay ang uban nga mupost ana, magracist baya dayon. pariha atong azkals-mongolia. manghambog ug pinoy pride, dayon iadd pa nga mga mongoloid ang mongolian team. or kanang pacquiao nga laiton dayon ang mga mexicans. naunsa man tawn ang mga pinoy oi? kung kita ang mabiktima sa racism, grabe kaayo mureact.

muprogress ba kaha ta kung inani ang kadaghanan nato?

- you've just read the 2% of the 100% population of the filipinos. you just based you're generalization theory on a few posts.

I'm not saying I applaud racism. I'm just saying those trash talkers doesn't represent the whole Filipinos.

I don't really see anything wrong about being over proud. it sets goals and boost the morale of the person to do better. coz we live in a competitive world.

and you're just viewing the small perspective. look around you. business, economics, leadership, even how good your dog looks like. people are very over proud of what they can achieve.

if you're didn't feel proud in your entire life. then there's really something wrong with you.

If philippines will become equal to US then I will run and shout PINOY PRIDE

[I_dontknow]

sala mani sa media sila man nag una2x ani !

[Hammer_and_Sickle]

apil na mn gud na sa atong kultura bai, pasikat, kung makakuha na ug "bragging rights" expected na na, hehehehehe, dili ra mnpud kitang mga pinoy mubuhat ana oi, daghan pang nationality mubuhat ana

[ongkal]

bitaw sad. naa say uban. pero akong tanaw di man inana ang mga developed countries.

naa nuon koy hypothesis nga mao sad na ang reason ngano di ta makaprogress. feeling psychologist sad ko da. hehe

apil na mn gud na sa atong kultura bai, pasikat, kung makakuha na ug "bragging rights" expected na na, hehehehehe, dili ra mnpud kitang mga pinoy mubuhat ana oi, daghan pang nationality mubuhat ana

[apprylle28]

Grabe ang pinoy angkon diri angkon didto... ses... labi na ang Abs-cbn...

[ongkal]

I read a great article article on pinoy pride. it pretty much explains in detail what i really feel about what many pinoys think is true 'pinoy pride'. I used to be one of those who endlessly posts 'pinoy pride' on videos and forums but after i realized that we as a nation and as a nationality, have yet to prove to the rest of the world that we can gain recognition out of something rather than individual filipinos who in no way represent the Philippines as a whole.

When we finally get rid of corruption, when we finally advance past our 3rd world status, when our politicians actually instigate change, when people start looking up to the Philippines as a respectable and noble nation, that's when i will truly proclaim 'PINOY PRIDE'.

i know its ok nga we get proud of our fellow filipinos. it just saddens me nga the way some people say it is like saying nga ang ato rang celebrities and famous individuals are our only sources of pride.

It has finally dawned unto me that there is something clearly erroneous with the circumstances in which Filipinos believe they should be proud about.

Arnel Pineda, Charice Pempengco, and boxing champion Manny Pacquiao, these are the few world-renowned Filipinos who have instigated a sense of so-called “Pinoy Pride” among the attention-seeking Filipinos who, after realizing within themselves that as a state, we have achieved practically nothing, would bask in to the achievements of the individuals mentioned in order to feel some sense of self-worth. However, I do not blame people like Pacquaio for precipitating a false sense of pride among Filipinos. After all, it’s not their fault their “kababayans” have a distorted culture.

Do we not remember that too much of anything is bad?

When Filipinos showcase this tremendous pride, they would do it excessively, as if a single person like Charice Pempengco can save the entire Philippines from its mayhem of unfortunate events. They would completely delude themselves that the Filipino race is superior among others without actually taking into consideration that other countries like the United States of America also have their fair share of talented people without actually rubbing it in to the international community’s face. I find it rather gloomy when I come across Filipinos with unwarranted pride, for I believe the reason behind this is that we no longer have other more important things we can be proud of, hence, people mentioned earlier in this article serve as the only excuse we have for having “Pinoy pride”.

So great is this pride that when people like Claire Danes dare say something about the unruly condition of the country and how dirty our surroundings are, we would bash them incessantly, forcing them to make a public apology. It’s hilarious at times since majority of these Filipinos who bash other people for stating the truth would say something bad against the person, not understanding that in order to come up with a good rebuttal, the ideas of the person should be attacked, not his or her personality. Then again, it is hard to defend why our country’s environment is dirty anyway. Apparently, it doesn’t occur to them that in order for people to stop saying negative things about our country, we should be very wary of our actions. Instead of doing that, we would just further humiliate ourselves in our country’s defense by making ourselves look low by making sorry excuses for our country’s downfall. Why don’t we do something in order for people like Claire Danes not to be able to say something horrible about us? We can do extreme measures like keep our environment clean and instil a sense of discipline among ourselves as to not make our country look like a dumpsite. Without a doubt, too much pride does harm us in so many ways we can’t imagine.

Another thing I realized about this inappropriate pride Filipinos have is that our people have very low self-esteem. It’s actually contrary to what I stated before but then I acknowledged the fact that if we do really have something going on for us, we wouldn’t bank on popular figures like Pacquiao and Pempengco. We would just let the whole world realize how great we are as a nation not by exploiting such personalities but by just keeping mum about it and letting it speak for itself. Furthermore, if the criticisms we received are untrue like what most Filipinos claim them to be, they wouldn’t be enraged by it right? The saying “The truth hurts” really is applicable to the uproar created by Filipinos when facing criticisms. That is probably the reason why we have never progressed as a country. We can’t take constructive criticisms because it hurts our ego despite the fact that we really need to change our wrong practices which consume us day by day.

I do not know if Filipinos will actually agree with me that as a nation, an effort should be done not just by one citizen but by majority of the population. No, I am not talking about another people power protest for I honestly think it’s irrelevant.

Our well-known Pinoy pride has resulted to us not working hard enough to be recognized in our own ways. We love fence-sitting on other people’s achievements because it is only through that that we feel important and appreciated. This pride is present in the minds of Filipinos due to the reason that we feel so small compared to other countries and so we hide behind this facade and continue to praise people like Pacquiao endlessly as if not doing so makes one disloyal to the country.

And so, I’ve arrived at a conclusion on why our people take so much pride in individuals who are recognized for their talents and skills. I’ve figured that some of our countrymen are too lazy to actually make an effort so that they can be praised themselves. I’ve got to admit that it is hard to make a collective action but if we will forever settle for the false and pretentious Pinoy pride we have, we are not going to progress. It should always take something more and bigger than a Charice Pempengco and Manny Pacquiao for us to be proud to be Filipino lest we want to be trapped in our wrong mentality for eternity.

Another disturbing attitude is that we attribute being Filipino to the success of people like Pacquiao as if we are the best race that ever walked this planet. Statements like “Pinoy yan kaya magaling” brings a feeling of discomfort to me. Instead of saying that that person worked hard to be where he or she is, being a Filipino is used to make ourselves feel important, superior, and righteous.

The main reason why I have never uttered the words “I’m proud to be a Filipino” is because I have high expectations and I do not like settling for mediocre thoughts like “We have Charice Pempengco”, “The Banawe Rice Terraces is one of the wonders of the world”, and “We really have cute tarsiers in our country” as sole reasons why I should be proud to be Filipino. Evidently, relying on such trivial achievements is mediocre and pathetic since there are bigger things we should focus on like improving the economy and living conditions of the Filipinos.

The time I will be proud to be Filipino is when everyone has done their part to change all aspects that needs to be changed. It is when the elite are doing their part in educating the masses because it is their responsibility. It is when we do not have an idiot for a president. It is when our surroundings are clean. And it is when our Human Development Index has increased (I do not believe that the GNP is the best gauge for development). From what I can see, it would ostensibly take a painstakingly long time given our track record.

[tisayishot]

Point said.. It's part of being a Filipino too.

[Mr_NicePrice]

its because wa naman ta'y lain ikapanghambog, normal rana ang too much pinoy pride, pero irritating pud and it promotes something negative, daghan na nuon magboxer... better unta e promote sa pinas ang education because mao na kailangan nato... mga inventors unta ang supportahan sa govt....

[Sand Man]

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