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    ang SC not being a tier of Facts, dili man siguro absolute.. naa man siguro exception...

    so in a way, naa pud point si masakiton...

  2. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    The judge must be just. Both sides presented testimonies, some evidence, some facts and some documents. And at this stage, they are convicted. The supreme court is not to try the facts,evidences, testimonies as these are being handled at the lower courts. SC is to try the question of LAW.
    diba sir.. kung mo question sa law kailangan gihapon ug facts/document/testimonies/evidence para bsaehan or mo support sa imo pag question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    The judge must be just. Both sides presented testimonies, some evidence, some facts and some documents. And at this stage, they are convicted. The supreme court is not to try the facts,evidences, testimonies as these are being handled at the lower courts. SC is to try the question of LAW.
    Ayaw nalang bro, mahurot ra imong laway ana. Ikapila na ni nako gi-discuss. Tuyok tuyokon ra ka ana. Lisod jud pasabton ang tao nga ingon ana...

  4. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    All findings of the SC are just opinions anyway, opinions of the majority. It's true that this doesn't have force of law, but at least it's on the record and maybe in the future the SC can consider a reversal of the new principles laid down in this latest ruling.

    I don't think it's fair either way you look at it. If Webb is really not guilty, then it's not fair he served 15 years when he is innocent. If he is really guilty, it's not fair to the other murder convicts that he served only 15 years. Either way you look at it, this is a black mark on our already notorious justice system.
    Yep I agree with you. But I am inclined to believe that Webb and Company are guilty as found by the lower courts - (Trial court and Court of Appeals).

    What I mean "fairness" is that, there are too many criminals nga wala ma persecute and there are also a lot of innocents nga na priso. As I believed in the lower court's decision, then even if they are acquited by the SC, even for me they are guilty then at least they have served some prison time.

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    Wala gyuy klaro atong justice System.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedie View Post
    Wala gyuy klaro atong justice System.............
    Naa sir oi. Klaro kaayo sila nga unfair and unjust.

  7. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    ang SC not being a tier of Facts, dili man siguro absolute.. naa man siguro exception...

    so in a way, naa pud point si masakiton...
    Dili na, just like plagiarism is not really plagiarism hahaha.. That's why some people say, if the Supreme Court says black is white, then black is white.

  8. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    @ masakiton^ Wa ka mubasa sa kaso no? Kai balik balik man nang imong binuang.

    "based sa facts dili lang personal feelings"

    Muhahaha basaha ang decision, kung kasabot ka. It's based on feelings and opinions. For example, they felt that Alfaro's testimony is incredible. Or for example, their opinion that certain circumstances were unlikely. All of these are findings based on the feeling of the court regarding various matters.

    The only finding of fact pertains to the judgment of the lower court which they are in any case forbidden from doing. Kasabot ka sa principle "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, but of law."

    So how can you be proud of your broken record, uneducated statement "atleast ang decision sa SC kai based on facts dili lang presonal feelings"? They aren't even supposed to be a trier of facts, only of law.

    Repeat to yourself 100x arun ma memorize nimo. "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."

    "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."
    "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."
    "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."
    "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."
    "Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, only law."
    x100

    Si Masakiton bah - ganahan siguro na siya Permi FACT. Sige lang balik murag scratch nga CD or Sirang PLAKA. Its the rule of LAW... hayst kakusa man guro na siyang Hubert gwapo man gud ning tawhana. Naa guro ni siya "PERSONAL FEELINGS" ug "FACTS" nila...:P

  9. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by muddstond View Post
    Si Masakiton bah - ganahan siguro na siya Permi FACT. Sige lang balik murag scratch nga CD or Sirang PLAKA. Its the rule of LAW... hayst kakusa man guro na siyang Hubert gwapo man gud ning tawhana. Naa guro ni siya "PERSONAL FEELINGS" ug "FACTS" nila...:P
    O basin naay ganahan mo "FACT" ni Hubert Webb. hahahaha...

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    haahha... i know some comments are coming from lawyers or law students pa.. but para nko as based sa mga news reported and newspapers.. MUKHANG guilty..

    hehehe bitaw bro, unsa kaha si lauro visconde no nga na rape, gipatay.. then until now, way klaro para sa uban kung kinsa jud..

    hope mahimbing ila pagtulog.. tsk tsk tsk

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