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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by deepscrew3791 View Post
    you're over simplifying & taking things out of context bro.. what he meant was, there is no need for a bill for RH to be effective.. Congress should take more time to make laws that are actually needed for our country..

    you mean to say that we don't have equal access right now to contraceptives? are you sure?! by the way, reproductive health has been taught in schools for a long time.. it doesn't require congress to make it a law.. CHED could just adopt it in their curriculum though I don't agree that it be taught to as young as kindergartens also (as what CHED planned before). I just don't see the need for the bill bro.. waste of our time & taxpayers money if you ask me.. better they prioritize their laws on education, etc..

    like i said, i don't take B. Avila's word for it hook, line & sinker.. but i have to agree, why push for a bill when it isn't really needed?.. what is needed is education on reproduction.. you don't need a friggin' RH bill for that!!

    why would you even call it an "opportunity" to make money bro?.. that shouldn't even be their agenda in the first place.. corruption is inherent in our government there are only a very few who aren't corrupted by the system.. I guess laws on punishing corrupt politicians is even a more daunting priority right now.. just my two cents..

    I am pro-LIFE but I still believe that we can make our own choices given the right knowledge & moral compass to guide us.. I just hope congress makes Laws that are really needed in our country.. using the same, right knowledge & moral compass too..
    yup we have the option to educate them about sexual reproduction...

    option is an option.. it is not mandatory.. meaning.. if the person who is engaged in a public health service decides not to educate people because of his religious belief then it is his option.. and that's a problem..

    one of the most important part of the bill is to penalize those people who are engage in public health services who does not provide the education the people need... it's their job to provide public service and if they won't because of their religious belief then they should quit their job..

    it's like the church.. they educated us what is good and what is evil... it's up to us to decide which one to follow....

    Provide the people the education that they need and let them decide what to do about this...

    this will also test the church.. kung unsa ka ligon iya teachings.. will they follow what the church says or will they choose what the government offered?

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilcher View Post
    yes...they will benifit.

    Dont you know the

    guns ,Gold, Gilrs.. man desire..

    sad to say.. 90% of politicians have mistresses..!syempre di sila gusto makabuntis..
    I wont mention names but in know a high ranking politician in cebu who order class-A escort girls..

    ..or maybe you are like them..or have plans also..

    Peace!
    dapat daghan pari mo uyon ani if kana imoha reason...

    i worked in the church before.. dili sakristan ha

    daghan ko nailhan na mga pari nga naay anak pero gitago lang sa church...
    ang uban wala anak pero naa mga chix/uyab.. dalhon pa sa kombento hehe..
    naa pud ganahan ug mga bata nga laki
    and the worst naa pud ng rape..
    i can name names pero wa ka kaila kay sa mindanao man to.. and all of them are under the diocesan congregation..
    on second thought d nalang ko mag name ug names kay buotan pud baya to uban... amigo pud naku hehe..

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    ignorance is one of the causes of poverty... a much aware citizen is a more responsible citizen
    +1 ko ani!

  4. #154
    Catholic Church losing influence over flock on RH?


    MANILA, Philippines - A key proponent of the reproductive health (RH) bills indicated that the Catholic Church is losing its touch in reining in its faithful from supporting the population measure.

    In a statement, House Minority leader Edcel Lagman, who filed House Bill (HB) 96, said,“The most recent Pulse Asia survey revealing that 69% of Filipinos favor the passage of a reproductive health law exposes the dwindling influence of the Catholic hierarchy when it comes to persuading the faithful to eschew modern methods of family planning.”

    Lagman noted that despite the Catholic hierarchy’s all-out campaign against the bill and its branding of all modern methods of family planning as “intrinsically evil,” support for the RH bill has even risen by 6 percentage points, from 63% supporting its passage into law in January 2009 to 69% in October 2010.



    Lagman further pointed out that nationwide opposition to the bill also decreased from 8% in January 2009 to 7% in Pulse Asia’s survey in October 2010.

    Lagman said:“They do not only approve of the passage of the RH bill, 79% recognize the right of women and couples to decide for themselves which family planning method is best suited to them; 70% agree that all forms of family planning methods should be promoted; and, 55% agree that government funds must be used to support modern family planning methods.”

    Lagman also said in his statement that based on the Pulse Asia survey, even a majority of those who disagreed endorsed the following provisions of the RH bill:

    • Recognizing the rights of women and couples to choose the family planning method that they want on the basis of their needs and personal and religious beliefs;
    • Promoting information about and access to natural and modern family planning methods; and,
    • Stipulating the use of government funds to support modern family planning methods.

    'Survey speaks for itself'
    Other House Leaders weighed in on the survey.
    House Speaker Sonny Belmonte told ABS-CBN News, “The survey speaks for it self, di ba”

    House Senior Deputy Majority Leader Janet Garin echoed Lagman’s sentiments, calling on colleagues to set aside their personal biases. Garin also has her own version of the RH bill.



    “The survey proves that majority of the Filipinos approve of the bill despite several black propaganda. The power of legislators emanates from the people, and I owe it to them to heed to their demand for RH. After all, this is the essence of republicanism," Garin said.

    "I take this opportunity to appeal to my colleagues not to close their eyes to this glaring reality, and acknowledge the timeliness and urgency of passing the RH bill, for majority of the people we serve want it. Personal biases should be set aside for the greater good. ”

    Skeptics
    Other House members were skeptical of the survey results.

    House population and family relations committee chair Rogelio Espina said, “I still have to check the questions in the survey and who were surveyed.”

    Rep. Anthony Golez said,“It just clearly shows that 69% of Filipinos are not informed about the danger of the health services the RH bill is offering to our people. More than half of the services it offers are abortifacient. This should signal the different medical society groups and medical scientists to come out and inform our public that when we consider that life begins during fertilization, many of RH services can kill a life in uterus. When we offer an informed choice as a pillar of family planning, we should make sure
    that the choices we give to our people are considered lawful, legitimate or do not violate any provision of our constitution.”


    RH Bill opponent Rep. Roilo Golez said, “I understand at least 90% of the folks have not read the RH bill. How can someone who has not read the bill have an informed opinion on the bill? If it is about reproductive health as a general issue, just like cardiovascular health, or pulmonary health or gastric health, etc., the answer will be positive. In fact, who would go against reproductive health as a general health issue?

    "The survey should first ask: have you read the RH bill? The opening question is very defective: aside from now, have you heard, read or watched anything about this bill or not?

    "To have an informed opinion, the question should have been limited to: have you read? Just reading or watching anything about RH cannot enable one to have an informed opinion on the bill which has more than 50 sections and sub sections.”


    SOURCE
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    A very positive news, hopefully next year, magiging batas na ni.

  5. #155
    its good to know that more people are aware of the realities of the country and the poverty within..

    the most stupidest argument ive read so far is RH bill is a waste of money because their is corruption is involved.. ngano singled out ang rh-bill? by this logic, mas maau nga di nalang mag legislate og laws ang congress n senate kay kurakot ra man ghapon diay.. complete BS! epic fail..

    we really need a strong information drive with regards to reproductive health and population control..

  6. #156
    Suwayan lang gud...makaau d i ni sa atong nasud...

  7. #157
    No to RH Bill gihapon ko mga pre. hehe

  8. #158
    Poll: 7 of 10 Pinoys in Favor of RH bill

    Just get some of the things written on the article, if you want to read the whole part you can visit this one: SOURCE

    interesting to note the percentage in favor of the RH Bill. Here:

    REGIONS:
    (all geographic areas have heard of, read or watched something about the bill)
    National Capital Region -90%
    Luzon -82%
    Visayas -66 %
    Mindanao 80%

    SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASSES:


    Classes ABC -93%
    Class D -82%
    Class E -72%

    SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASSES: (all geographic areas and socio-economic classes agree with the bill.)

    Geographically:
    NCR -74 %
    Luzon -67%
    Visayas -66%
    Mindanao -72%

    Economically:
    Classes ABC -78 %
    Class D -66%
    Class E -72%
    ____________

    Quote Originally Posted by arkikuku View Post
    No to RH Bill gihapon ko mga pre. hehe
    Okay lang na Sir, kanya-kanya mang opinion..

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post
    dapat daghan pari mo uyon ani if kana imoha reason...

    i worked in the church before.. dili sakristan ha

    daghan ko nailhan na mga pari nga naay anak pero gitago lang sa church...
    ang uban wala anak pero naa mga chix/uyab.. dalhon pa sa kombento hehe..
    naa pud ganahan ug mga bata nga laki
    and the worst naa pud ng rape..
    i can name names pero wa ka kaila kay sa mindanao man to.. and all of them are under the diocesan congregation..
    on second thought d nalang ko mag name ug names kay buotan pud baya to uban... amigo pud naku hehe..
    Priest are not God... I'm a catholic.. but unlike you I did not serve as church volunteer.. but I dont praise Priest also.. My faith is direct to God...even the Pope can aged also..

    But one thing.. i want to teach you that you never learned on your service...
    "we are gifted of free will and to know right from wrong.. sin of some does not mean all are sinners.."

    kung naa ka makit-an na dautan then i-generalize nimo tanan.. then thats wrong..
    kung mu ingon ka mga hapon dautan kay mag suicide..think again dili tanan..
    kung mu ingon ka mga german mamatay tao sama ni hitler...think again..

    bottomline.. ikaw mag decide which is right in the end.... ayaw i base imoa life by observing others!


  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by colby View Post
    Poll: 7 of 10 Pinoys in Favor of RH bill

    Just get some of the things written on the article, if you want to read the whole part you can visit this one: SOURCE

    interesting to note the percentage in favor of the RH Bill. Here:

    REGIONS:
    (all geographic areas have heard of, read or watched something about the bill)
    National Capital Region -90%
    Luzon -82%
    Visayas -66 %
    Mindanao 80%

    SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASSES:


    Classes ABC -93%
    Class D -82%
    Class E -72%

    SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASSES: (all geographic areas and socio-economic classes agree with the bill.)

    Geographically:
    NCR -74 %
    Luzon -67%
    Visayas -66%
    Mindanao -72%

    Economically:
    Classes ABC -78 %
    Class D -66%
    Class E -72%
    ____________



    Okay lang na Sir, kanya-kanya mang opinion..

    bitaw.. sama ra nang rason why nidaug si Noynoy....
    ngano kaha?

    hahaaaays... ana jud na life... some are deprived of education..


    sa mailad lang.!!

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