Legalize Abortion?

[RMK711]

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^ Pataka lang na siya.. gisugo na sa pari. haha

[nea_ness]

in the first place,ngano magpa abort paman? mahal bayad mag paabort.maypa nipalit nlng mog condom para way batang ipaabort. mas barato pa. wa untay inosenteng bata ang mamatay

[shade]

therefore dapat naa jud RH-bill and also educate the people para dili magtinanga mga tao..

ang kanindot pud is naa na access and knowledge ang mga tao regarding family planning..


i wonder why ang catholics mo insist nga the catholic way is the only way.. for me. that is the biggest BS ive heard..

the true ways are the scientific ways....

morality is subjective and relative...

abortion is a necessary evil. whether we like it or not.. there are couples forced to abort their baby...

hahahha mau gyd ^^ ma legalize or not ning abortion! people will still do abortion ^^ one way or another mas ma ayo nga e legalize na lng gyd! total d mana inyong bata ba! so u cant relate! mau na ang mind your own business!!!!! kng dili ka ayaw lng gyd!
people have their own reason why they do it and im sure they are fully aware of what they are doing!

^^

[shade]

kung ako ang bata sa mga adict nga parents nya mga irresponsible nga parents nga LOVE AND CARE ra ang ma hatag d maka pa kaon nako ug bayad sa school, ma force ko mang limos nya ma tulog sa street and mangawat na lng or mug rugby2x! HALA PATYA KO woe^^ ga samok2x lng ko ..

[peewee_toot]

mas maayu jd nga educated ang mga tao pra dili sila m result aning ing ani...

[AmorsoloX]

in the first place,ngano magpa abort paman? mahal bayad mag paabort.maypa nipalit nlng mog condom para way batang ipaabort. mas barato pa. wa untay inosenteng bata ang mamatay

saon.. mo kontra man lage mga pari nga mogamit og condom...

mas maayu jd nga educated ang mga tao pra dili sila m result aning ing ani...

aw.. nindut gud.. pero mao lage, maski unsa pa ka ka-knowldedgable when it comes to family-planning, inngon ghapon ka ignorant/immoral sa simbahan..

saon.. naa man certain groups nga greedy n stupid kaau nga gusto ila ra jud obsolete nga teachings ang sundon..

[lifebook11]

saon.. mo kontra man lage mga pari nga mogamit og condom...



aw.. nindut gud.. pero mao lage, maski unsa pa ka ka-knowldedgable when it comes to family-planning, inngon ghapon ka ignorant/immoral sa simbahan..

saon.. naa man certain groups nga greedy n stupid kaau nga gusto ila ra jud obsolete nga teachings ang sundon..

exactly brad! I really do not get the idea why is it bad to teach people ways on how to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It's not like people are saying "Hey go have ***, you will be protected by condom!". Giving knowledge is far far from being immoral.

[mannyamador]

people have their own reason why they do it and im sure they are fully aware of what they are doing!

Think about this for a minute: rapists and murderers are also fully aware of what rhey are doing, and rthey have their own reasons. That doesn't make it right or permissible.

Abortion involves killing someone else -- an innocent person. It is never justified.

The RH/Abortion Bill will effectively legalize abortion through abortifacient contraceptives. HB 96 explicitly funds the procurement and distribution of abortifacient contraceptives such as oral contraceptives, hormonal contraceptives, and the IUD. Section 9 of HB 96, for example, classifies hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, and injectables as "essential medicines," includes them as part of the National Drug Formulary, and subsidizes their procurement. In SB 2378 this is in also in Section 9. Under Section 7 of both bills, all accredited hospitals (except some specialty hospitals) must provide such abortifacient drugs, devices, and services, and this shall be subsidized using public money through Philhealth. Section 10 of both bills mandates the procurement and distribution of such "family planning supplies."

That is one of the reasons why it is so wrong.

Other objections to the RH/Abortion Hill include:

• HB 96 that violates freedom of speech because it punishes anyone just even speaking out against th bill. It calls this "malicious disninformation." Section 22 (e) of the proposed bill HB 96, for example, lists the following as a prohibited act: "Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act." This provision is overly broad and "disinformation" could (and most probably will) be construed as prohibiting the expression of objections to the Bill, such as what we are presently doing. This provision is is obviously going to be used to suppress dissent, and is an undue restriction of freedom of speech. It has no place in any of the laws of a democratic nation.
  
  
• Under the RH/Abortion bill, parents will lose their authority over their children when it comes to *** education as the bill prescribes mandatory *** education starting Grade V up to Fourth Year High School.*This is NOT optional and neither schools nor parents are authorized to modify the program according to their religious or other beliefs (HB 96 Sec 13; SB 2378 Sec. 13).
  
  
• Section 18, on the other hand, mandates that employers must provide family planning services (or information on where to obtain these), presumably including abortifacient contraceptives, to their employees. Employers, therefore, are not given any choice despite the fact that distribution of these abortifacients and contraceptives may be against their conscience. The Cebu archdiocese, and all dioceses in the Philippines, for example are employers. The bill will also penalize them if they refuse to provide abortifacient and artificial contraceptive drugs, devices, and services.
  
  
• HB 96 mandates that the government will "encourage them to have two children as the ideal family size" (Sec. 17). This has no scientific basis and will, in fact, lead to populkation ageing if successfully implemented. Moreover, such "encouragement" has historically always been coercive despite the bill's further prescription that no "punitive action" will be taken against couples that have more than two children. This is disingenious since it essentially means that some will be granted incentives while others denied them. Among the poor, that can certainly be (and has been in the past) very coercive. The choice of which "incentives" to deny is tricky and very open to abuse. Fortunately there is no similar provision in SB 2378.

These are objective, NON-RELIGIOUS reasons for rejecting the RH/Abortion Bill.

[orven]

anti jud ko ani.. stop abortion be pro-life!

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Think about this for a minute: rapists and murderers are also fully aware of what rhey are doing, and rthey have their own reasons. That doesn't make it right or permissible.

Abortion involves killing someone else -- an innocent person. It is never justified.

The RH/Abortion Bill will effectively legalize abortion through abortifacient contraceptives. HB 96 explicitly funds the procurement and distribution of abortifacient contraceptives such as oral contraceptives, hormonal contraceptives, and the IUD. Section 9 of HB 96, for example, classifies hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, and injectables as "essential medicines," includes them as part of the National Drug Formulary, and subsidizes their procurement. In SB 2378 this is in also in Section 9. Under Section 7 of both bills, all accredited hospitals (except some specialty hospitals) must provide such abortifacient drugs, devices, and services, and this shall be subsidized using public money through Philhealth. Section 10 of both bills mandates the procurement and distribution of such "family planning supplies."

That is one of the reasons why it is so wrong.

Other objections to the RH/Abortion Hill include:

• HB 96 that violates freedom of speech because it punishes anyone just even speaking out against th bill. It calls this "malicious disninformation." Section 22 (e) of the proposed bill HB 96, for example, lists the following as a prohibited act: "Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act." This provision is overly broad and "disinformation" could (and most probably will) be construed as prohibiting the expression of objections to the Bill, such as what we are presently doing. This provision is is obviously going to be used to suppress dissent, and is an undue restriction of freedom of speech. It has no place in any of the laws of a democratic nation.
  
  
• Under the RH/Abortion bill, parents will lose their authority over their children when it comes to *** education as the bill prescribes mandatory *** education starting Grade V up to Fourth Year High School.*This is NOT optional and neither schools nor parents are authorized to modify the program according to their religious or other beliefs (HB 96 Sec 13; SB 2378 Sec. 13).
  
  
• Section 18, on the other hand, mandates that employers must provide family planning services (or information on where to obtain these), presumably including abortifacient contraceptives, to their employees. Employers, therefore, are not given any choice despite the fact that distribution of these abortifacients and contraceptives may be against their conscience. The Cebu archdiocese, and all dioceses in the Philippines, for example are employers. The bill will also penalize them if they refuse to provide abortifacient and artificial contraceptive drugs, devices, and services.
  
  
• HB 96 mandates that the government will "encourage them to have two children as the ideal family size" (Sec. 17). This has no scientific basis and will, in fact, lead to populkation ageing if successfully implemented. Moreover, such "encouragement" has historically always been coercive despite the bill's further prescription that no "punitive action" will be taken against couples that have more than two children. This is disingenious since it essentially means that some will be granted incentives while others denied them. Among the poor, that can certainly be (and has been in the past) very coercive. The choice of which "incentives" to deny is tricky and very open to abuse. Fortunately there is no similar provision in SB 2378.

These are objective, NON-RELIGIOUS reasons for rejecting the RH/Abortion Bill.

wll i dont find anything wrong with this ^^ *** education is good cuz people with an early age will be well informed of the cons when u will be engage in ***. the only thing here is dapat ang teacher pud well informed ^^