"Truth" about Islam from an ex-Muslim

[iDEeN]

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Again ... it is hard for people taking about something they dont have no clue at all .

It takes one to know one .

nagkatawa lang mga MUSLIMS ninyo kay kutob ra mo sa news , clips , links etc but are not reliable enough to have a conclusion .

Re-opening the thread ... discuss it with intelligence instead of ignorance .

please follow the Mod message.

[iDEeN]

from what i've read from all the violent reactions to those who are against islam in this thread is that they are being blinded by the acts of the RADICAL MUSLIMS. The muslims that are terrorists.



But, let's face facts here:

- milf - muslims
- abu sayyaf - muslims
- 911 bombing - muslims
- al queda - muslims

With Hollywood and most of the media portraying muslims as terrorists, we can't blame that most of the non-muslims see muslims as terrorists.


I know there are muslims who are trying to educated people the teachings of Quran and how wonderful it is ( on their standpoint ). But, this would go on forever, not until these muslim extremist will stop their " war against the infidels ". But, that is unlikely to happen.

this is a good point.

[madmom]

He doesn't need to, read your bible. Are you a Christian?

I will not challenge your idea about Our Prophet but will only say this, he was a great defender of Islam.

yes bro, i'm a christian but i will not lay down and not lift a finger if my love ones are threatened.

i will lay down my life for those that i love and i will be very wary of muslims who are bringing their intolerant religion by force into this world in this day and age.

kasabot ko sa gubat sa panahon sa crusades bro pero karon panahona ang inyong religion nagsulti nga mahimo patayon ninyo ang dili mutuo ni mohammed unya malangit mo. ang akong religion does not make a distinction ug muslim ka o pagan ka, ug maka patay ka dili ka maka sulod sa paraiso.

my religion makes me chose. your religion once you're in will not let you go and if you do it is under the pain of death in the hands of your faithful. tell me i'm wrong bro.

[madmom]

Again ... it is hard for people taking about something they dont have no clue at all .

It takes one to know one .

nagkatawa lang mga MUSLIMS ninyo kay kutob ra mo sa news , clips , links etc but are not reliable enough to have a conclusion .

Re-opening the thread ... discuss it with intelligence instead of ignorance .

only idiots don't change their minds

[madmom]

can i just ask something to everyone who has shared their opinions in this thread

ARE YOUR LIVES DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE MUSLIMS ??

please note the word DIRECTLY

let's narrow this to a personal standpoint, not on a global scale.

bro my home and my love ones are all within striking distance of a sizable and in many cases illegally inclined but rarely violent muslim community

direct enough for you bro?

please note the word rarely

[JAINI]

can i just ask something to everyone who has shared their opinions in this thread

ARE YOUR LIVES DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE MUSLIMS ??

please note the word DIRECTLY

let's narrow this to a personal standpoint, not on a global scale.

personal experience yes direct ug indirect..didto ko nag dako sa mindanao in daghan na mga personal xperience with them..in our place basta naa kay kontra usa nila halos sila tanan motabang nimu dili patas makig away dili mahadlok mo patay kay layas dayon sa ilahang lugar..sa ako na notice ang mga trader o negosyante nila medyo buotan molikay ug away if mahimo.sa ako langni nga experience ha.

[madmom]

naa koy pangutana, kung mobalik man gani c Jesus dris kalibutan, unya nagkasakay mos jeep, ang sinul-oban prehas sa mga muslim. unsa-on man ninyo siya? ingnon ninyog terrorista? haha.

He could never be a terrorista basin hinuon Iyang mada ang mga muslim into His fold

[madmom]

why do i sense anger from what you said.
direct enough for you bro?.

as for me, i'm here in the islam heartland of saudi. I would say, just on my experience that i've only met or only have 2 saudi muslim friends. The rest, eventhough they are educated, still discriminate the infidels.

not anger bro, wariness but definitely not fear

[madmom]

yoda said fear leads to the dark side. fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering pretty smart, if i may say so

[madmom]

Hey guys, i'm just curious, can anyone here name an organized christian terrorist group in this modern era or in our generation? or how about a buddhist or hindu terrorist group? What i mean is if we have sophisticated terror networks like the al queda, abu sayyaf, jemaah islamiya muslim extermists groups existing today, whether they are misguided or misinterpreted the Quran it doesn't matter, so how about christian fundamentalist terror group? Because this may put a big question mark on Muslim's claim as a religion of peace..

Could it be the nature of Islam's religion itself being fully intertwined and integrated with their culture that has somehow delayed its evolution, making it difficult and slow to adapt in this modern world?? Because what i observed is that most Arab countries in the middle east still practice the ancient methods in dealing with its people, the equivalent would be the Old Testament Judaism. We all know that Christianity, especially the Roman Catholic Church, had its share of dark history in the middle ages, but the church itself had evolved, adapting itself with the times and that's who we are today. Could it be the dark side of theocracy or Islamic governments sponsoring state religion that's a factor in creating breeding grounds for extremism?

the irish republican army ?