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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    probably, not the same category and probably even not the same agenda and even not the same frequency of skirmishes but for whatever reason, a conflict is a conflict.

    does utopia and aquila's conflict have a better reason? my APO brother does not agree that their conflicts are any better though.
    That's true, I don't believe and I'm not saying that the reasons behind their conflicts are any better than that of other groups. It's like this, Aquila was the 1st frat. When Utopia was later founded, their hazing was not as bad or as severe as Aquila's, so naturally the mostly rich-kid crowd of Ateneo gravitated to the 'softer' frat and their recruitment was always better than Aquila's. So to counter this, the Aquilans would 'bully' the Utopians to inspire fear. As time went on, Utopia started to fight back and now that's why we see the occasional Aquila-Utopia skirmishes. It's not even that frequent, it's like once a year or thrice at most. Syempre busy sad gud kay daghan tun-anan pero that's really the nature of their 'rivalry'. You can't say that it's a war of epic proportions as it is with some groups, rivalry lang gyud.

    I'm not even going to attempt to try and understand the rationale behind the other frats' skirmishes. But that's not my point. What I'm looking at is that bisan tuod naay gamay nga gubot2x mahitabo sa Aquila-Utopia, you know the MAIN reason for their existence, and that is to create a network and to help each other become good lawyers. That is why, as you mentioned, we see most of them in Congress, the Supreme Court, the local government. That is the reason why they are going strong and why no one is asking for their heads. The truth is, after the Lenny Villa incident, the school has banned or does not recognize any frat in the school, and yet they're still there. Murag gipa-gawas lang sa school nga gi-condemn nila ang hazing and the death/violence, but in reality they're secretly rooting for them to continue doing their jobs because the end-result is that if any of them become good lawyers or top-notchers, ang school ra gihapon ang maka-pabor. In all honesty, it's unfortunate but you cannot say the same thing about other frats. I don't mean that in an insulting or demeaning way, I'm just saying that from my personal POV. You can agree or disagree but that's just me.

    OT na kaayo, I apologize.

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  3. #153
    mga tagalog ray nagbuhat ato....
    utro pud ang mga PALPAK nga manila police. mikalawat lang pud dayon sa
    mga istorya....

    bisan asa ibutang palpak gyud nang mga tagalog labi na police...

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by linogzkie View Post
    mga tagalog ray nagbuhat ato....
    utro pud ang mga PALPAK nga manila police. mikalawat lang pud dayon sa
    mga istorya....

    bisan asa ibutang palpak gyud nang mga tagalog labi na police...
    hilason baya na sila labi na dli taga kaulohan pag tan-aw nila ignorante nia sila raba diay ang tinuod...

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by yowenn View Post
    hilason baya na sila labi na dli taga kaulohan pag tan-aw nila ignorante nia sila raba diay ang tinuod...
    mao gyud, tagalog pa, nga kusog kaayo na modala ug diskreminasyon...
    ang ending PALPAK...

    "TAGALOG OUT CEBUANO RULE"

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Jumperman View Post
    That's true, I don't believe and I'm not saying that the reasons behind their conflicts are any better than that of other groups.

    I'm not even going to attempt to try and understand the rationale behind the other frats' skirmishes. But that's not my point. What I'm looking at is that bisan tuod naay gamay nga gubot2x mahitabo sa Aquila-Utopia, you know the MAIN reason for their existence, and that is to create a network and to help each other become good lawyers.

    Same with TGP & AKP, it just so happened that it blew way out of proportion and it became so big that it took years to correct.

    These groups were not founded and existed to kill each other. Probably with other fraternities, the so called "skirmishes" is not as big as the above-mentioned groups because they are exclusive to a certain school and certain course or both. Unlike TGP & AKP that is present in almost all universities and colleges, in different courses nationwide. AFAIK, it is only APO, TGP, AKP & BS that are truly national fraternities.

    I however strongly agree, that Greek-letter fraternity recruitment should only be limited to college students.

    I really don't see any logical reason why OSY's should be in a fraternity. Though APO would not admit the real reason how SRB came to be but most fratmen know. In my opinion, the mistake was opening community-based chapters in the first place for the wrong reasons. There is really no right reason for community-based chapter for a college fraternity unless the purpose is vast and mass networking to take over territories, which by the way how gangs operates and exists and nobody can convince me otherwise.

    It's just plain and simple, sociology and psychology 101 really but some people just won't admit it or hate to accept it.
    Last edited by LytSlpr; 09-30-2010 at 12:58 PM.

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by mackiechoy View Post


    maayo unta noh kung sila rajud, pero naa man juy madamay na y labot panagsa and kung naa man lay maamong, maapil unta ka, aron mangahurot pud mga gagmayg utok parehas nimo.

    Justice for Lazaga gives justice to AKP, gives justice to Cebuanos!
    na igo ka sir? wala jud koy gi mention ngari kung unsa nga frat. ni comment ra ko sa gi comment sa usa ka istoryan. chill lng. btw, an infraction is coming. attacking the poster mn na imo. not the post.

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    na igo ka sir? wala jud koy gi mention ngari kung unsa nga frat. ni comment ra ko sa gi comment sa usa ka istoryan. chill lng. btw, an infraction is coming. attacking the poster mn na imo. not the post.
    yes you did not mention any particular fraternity but you are referring to the ones involved and some istoryans are members of these organizations (speaking of attacking the poster, huh?) but not necessarily involved in these violent acts, and giving an ignorant comment like that deserves one back so let's not be hypocrites and then suddenly act all innocent as if you're being attacked.

    we're posting here to support the real victim and to show that the event was not frat motivated as far as our fellow Cebuano Jed is concerned, so let's not start posting some comments that would step on some of our fellow members.

  9. #159
    huwat lang ta unsai dagan sa kaso nya ani..

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    ok ra kaayu ni nako. para mangahurot na sila. maytag kung mag gubat sila, sila ra jd. dili mangamong og lain...

    lisod sad kaau ug walay mapagan sir..kahibalo nka sa ilahang prinsipyo sir na bahala na basta mka baws lng..

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