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    since ang simbahan klaro man gyud kaayo na nagpabayad na sila sa mga services with fixed amount like: bunyag, kasal, patay, pa misa sa kalag, seminar etc. dapat ang ilang resibo kanang gikan sa BIR with TIN number bisag kana nalang ang pangayu-an ug tax pwede dako na kaayo ang ma kuha sa gobyerno para sa mga infra total ang mga AMAW ug HANGGAW na mga PARI ug MALDITA na mga MADRE gamit man sila sa mga pasilidad nga funded gikan sa buhis. or else kong dili sila mo bayad sa buhis mag subsidize nalang sila sa education and health program total naa man sila mga hospital ug schools pero ang nahitabo sobra na hinu-on ka mahal ang ilang hospital ug school........AHAK NALANG NING MGA PARI UG MADRE

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    not so sure how true these facts are...

    - 40% of ALL collections on Sunday masses goes to Vatican
    - Vatican controls the worlds economy
    - IMF and WB are FULLY controlled by Vatican


  3. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    Pfftt ... GENERALIZING? Let's see ...
    Pffft ? Lets see what ? You already showed it .

    Yessir! Why don't you look up INSTITUTE FOR WORKS OF RELIGION and CREDITO AMBROSIANO fiasco in 1982, ROBERT CALVI, and POPE JOHN PAUL I??
    You just answered your question . Usbon nako ... mao ba ni sila ang VATICAN ? Refer to the reply above .

    "The main underlying Roman Catholic purpose is to infiltrate, and penetrate all the areas of life, were the Roman Catholic Church can have control with excess in a One World Government. ...this have been in preparation especially since the formation of the Jesuit order in 1541 to infiltrate absolutely every area of society so as to take over the world politically and religiously. The two main doctrines of Catholicism that define this are ... The doctrine of the Apostolic succession, which is actually the Papacy. And the doctrine of temporal power which is secular government. The office of Pope illustrates this easily ... The Pope is the head of the Church as well as the head of the State of Rome."

    It could have been a reliable quote if you sourced it out from a person who is not an EX JESUIT lol . Whats next ? Freemasonry ? Lol !!!

    Soo .. Vatican is sort of running a business, eh?! Thanks for adding! Oh, did you know that the current Pope is a NAZI ?? Also the VATICAN helped NAZI officers to escape from prosecution which became known as OPERATION RAT LINE?? It's hard to argue they ain't political.
    Do you even know how to read in between lines ? last time I checked , its " I RATHER SAY ITS A BUSINESS "
    but nevertheless , for your own consumption ... indeed religions are business . NAZI ? Again get your facts srtaight mr. Historian !! Its your time to shine here , read about RATZINGER and the SWASTIKA .

    Apparently ... Vatican hides PEDOPHILES ... That means they're pedophiles too! Don't tell me this ain't true ?? You should watch a documentary called "S-E-X Crimes and the Vatican"...
    Lol ... do I even have to waste time on these post of yours ? Well I just did . Ok , so whats with S3X CRIMES and the VATICAN ? Spoil it here . 1 time lang since this thread is about your accusations of MONEY LAUNDERING man .

    Why don't you tell us why MONEY LAUNDERING is illegal, since you sound like having a deep knowledge about it ... So funny you said "Ayaw mo palaban sa GOOGLE" ... LMFAO!!! Where do you want us to research information , in the Bible?? LMFAO ...
    Lol ... everyone knows what is MONEY LAUNDERING .... but what the thread is all about .... that is the point where you are confused on what is MONEY LAUNDERING . Sabta usab ang source sa TS , ratsada man ka dayon gud . Pwede pod sa dictionary ka manghearing unsa na .

    Hmmm ... So all I said was entirely lies?? Why don't you research and see it for yourself ... Facts are stubborn things, eh?!
    Pure SPECULATIONS on your part . Period , no more and no less . You havent presented anythign FACTUAL yet as far as the TS reason why the thread existed .

    Anyways .. are you saying that the event was just an ACCIDENT?? Hmmm ... Making two suspicious transactions (as you claim "kulang na requirements") doesn't seem accidental to any sane people. LMFAOO!!
    Lol ... read the link again . Murag guba na plaka na ka ani Mr. Historian . Thats really a shame when you are claiming to be a HISTORIAN but you cant even present factual events . Save the laugh , you are gonna need it when you find out how wrong you are . it doesnt sound right ? well it sounds like FAQ here is SANE and better than the people in VATICAN because they are INSANE and doesnt know jackshyt . Is that right ?
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  4. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    of course there gonna defend it... its there right, right? but whats wrong is when u continue to defend ur religion when everybody knows ur religion is wrong

    And can we call "right" one's speculations? That's relative bro. Who condemns the church? Just because you and your friends here say, the church is wrong so it should be wrong? I defend the church because I am one of the church .. and when you and your friends generalize that the church is corrupt .. worldly .. with crimes and violence .. worst, pedophiles, I just can't sit and read because you all are accusing ME, and I am not and never been closed to those adjectives! Maybe I am no better than you all are, but I am doing my best to be right, to be good, to reach out and help ( haha .. how many professionals have I helped when they were students and paid their tuition?) and of course, I donate to the church... because no matter how your call her, I love my church, the catholic church. so I have to defend it like I defend my mother when someone calls her a "whore".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    You just answered your question . Usbon nako ... mao ba ni sila ang VATICAN ? Refer to the reply above .
    Yes. You claimed that you attended seminary but you don't know what IOR is (which is commonly called VATICAN BANK)? I would be surprised if you don't know anything happened in 1982, or that this is the first time they got involved with MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDAL.

    It could have been a reliable quote if you sourced it out from a person who is not an EX JESUIT lol . Whats next ? Freemasonry ? Lol !!!
    What sucks about a friend turning to an enemy ... they spread all the bad things about you.

    Do you even know how to read in between lines ? last time I checked , its " I RATHER SAY ITS A BUSINESS "
    but nevertheless , for your own consumption ... indeed religions are business . NAZI ? Again get your facts srtaight mr. Historian !! Its your time to shine here , read about RATZINGER and the SWASTIKA .
    Look up OPERATION RAT LINE ... Why are talking SWASTIKA here?? Trying to duck the issue?? I know Swastika is the Nazi's emblem but why would I look it up?? LOL. *common sense*

    VATICAN are running business ... selling insurance to a better afterlife to millions of unknowing victims if they follow their rules.

    Lol ... do I even have to waste time on these post of yours ? Well I just did . Ok , so whats with S3X CRIMES and the VATICAN ? Spoil it here . 1 time lang since this thread is about your accusations of MONEY LAUNDERING man .
    You should watch it.

    Lol ... everyone knows what is MONEY LAUNDERING .... but what the thread is all about .... that is the point where you are confused on what is MONEY LAUNDERING . Sabta usab ang source sa TS , ratsada man ka dayon gud . Pwede pod sa dictionary ka manghearing unsa na .
    Lol. In Italy they have different set of laws there (MONEY LAUNDERING REGULATIONS) ... Even it doesn't look like it's money laundering they still consider it as one because the VATICAN BANK is sort of violated their Money Laundering Regulations ...

    Pure SPECULATIONS on your part . Period , no more and no less . You havent presented anythign FACTUAL yet as far as the TS reason why the thread existed .
    Hmmm... I did presented FACTS. Have you even dare to research to make sure it's really true?? The truth really hurts eh, MR. GUN LOVER?!

    Lol ... read the link again . Murag guba na plaka na ka ani Mr. Historian . Thats really a shame when you are claiming to be a HISTORIAN but you cant even present factual events . Save the laugh , you are gonna need it when you find out how wrong you are . it doesnt sound right ? well it sounds like FAQ here is SANE and better than the people in VATICAN because they are INSANE and doesnt know jackshyt . Is that right ?
    We'll see. But making two transactions without providing enough information doesn't seem an accident to any sane people. Not one, but two. Hmmm ... Any sane people would know that ... Because they failed TWICE in a row ... yes, they're insane. They've been working in the bank for a long time, sending money to other banks and etc is one of their regular task and now they failed to comply the MONEY LAUNDERING REGULATIONS twice in a row?? Of course, that something fishy, isn't? THAT'S DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN ACCIDENT ... AT ALL!

  6. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    VATICAN are running business ... selling insurance to a better afterlife to millions of unknowing victims if they follow their rules.
    it started the rise of its power at the same time it started its decline in credibility...

    the church become corrupted by greed,gluttony, and lust...

    whats more is that they are capitalizing on people's FEAR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    Yes. You claimed that you attended seminary but you don't know what IOR is (which is commonly called VATICAN BANK)? I would be surprised if you don't know anything happened in 1982, or that this is the first time they got involved with MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDAL.
    Even if I was ordained as a Catholic priest , it does not guarantee anything that I would know such things if its true or not .Like I said .... who are these THEY ? You cant seem to comprehend that part because you tried to avoid GENERALIZING now by not being SPECIFIC but still , the nature of GENERALIZATIOn is still there . Come on ... say it is the VATICAN . Its a 3 syllable word .

    What sucks about a friend turning to an enemy ... they spread all the bad things about you.
    And is it JUSTIFIED ? Ifof one your friends turned his back on you also telling me or rather broadcasting it that that you slept with his brother , am I suppposed to believed him or not ?

    Look up OPERATION RAT LINE ... Why are talking SWASTIKA here?? Trying to duck the issue?? I know Swastika is the Nazi's emblem but why would I look it up?? LOL. *common sense*
    You want to talk about commonsense ? How about the book RATZINGER and the SWASTIKA . By the way , I didnt ask you to google it as keywords lol . Aron ma enlightened bitaw ka about

    VATICAN are running business ... selling insurance to a better afterlife to millions of unknowing victims if they follow their rules.
    Hahahaha ! Is that all you got ? I need something with more substance . Actually its BILLIONS sweetie . And yes they are all wrong and here FAQ being singled out as the SANE and CORRECT person .

    You should watch it.
    WHy would I watch it when it is in the news all over the place ? Just so your supposed to be " source " is credited ? How about you justify it to me the real score not basing it as documentary because it doesnt automatically it is right and true because it is documented .

    Lol. In Italy they have different set of laws there (MONEY LAUNDERING REGULATIONS) ... Even it doesn't look like it's money laundering they still consider it as one because the VATICAN BANK is sort of violated their Money Laundering Regulations ...
    Do you know what you are taking about ? WHy make it so complicated ? Whats with the different set of laws there ? Why compare it somewhere else when in FACT ... we are talking about the VATICAN here being a part of the STATE of VATICAN .

    By the way ... how can one consider it as MONEY LAUNDERING when the INVESTIGATION is not even done yet . Ikaw na lang pag imbestigador nila lol .


    Hmmm... I did presented FACTS. Have you even dare to research to make sure it's really true?? The truth really hurts eh, MR. GUN LOVER?!
    Im still waiting Mr. Historian . Too bad ... you are sounding like ZAIDE now .

    We'll see. But making two transactions without providing enough information doesn't seem an accident to any sane people. Not one, but two. Hmmm ... Any sane people would know that ... Because they failed TWICE in a row ... yes, they're insane. They've been working in the bank for a long time, sending money to other banks and etc is one of their regular task and now they failed to comply the MONEY LAUNDERING REGULATIONS twice in a row?? Of course, that something fishy, isn't? THAT'S DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN ACCIDENT ... AT ALL!
    If its twice in a row ... why would the state act only in the second transaction . Do you really think naay second pa mahitabo if there was a reprimand / warning / investigation sa first one ? Lol again ! And here you are na abot na ka sa CONCLUSION na they are INSANE , pa something FISHY2 pa ka etc . Like I said , get your facts straight .
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  8. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    You cannot build anything without money, can you?
    I thought your GOD can make miracles? why does HE need money? Why do HIS little fanatic Catholic Priests NEED MONEY?

    They SHOULD rely on their GOD for anything they want, NOT MONEY right?

    Pasabot, their fake, their corrupt and manipulative. PAKSIT nasad inyung relihiyon sa scandal. imagine a VATICAN BANK? OMG, they have their own BANK? wahahahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    Even if I was ordained as a Catholic priest , it does not guarantee anything that I would know such things if its true or not .Like I said .... who are these THEY ? You cant seem to comprehend that part because you tried to avoid GENERALIZING now by not being SPECIFIC but still , the nature of GENERALIZATIOn is still there . Come on ... say it is the VATICAN . Its a 3 syllable word .
    Yes. It is the VATICAN. LOL!

    And is it JUSTIFIED ? Ifof one your friends turned his back on you also telling me or rather broadcasting it that that you slept with his brother , am I suppposed to believed him or not ?
    It depends on its credibility. The most crazy thing about the ex-Jesuit priest though, he has strong sources. That's why you should research about him and his claims. But, right now we're talking about VATICAN'S MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDAL. Let's focus to that issue ...

    Oh, if your former friend telling everyone that you slept with his brother, I would definately believe him.

    You want to talk about commonsense ? How about the book RATZINGER and the SWASTIKA . By the way , I didnt ask you to google it as keywords lol . Aron ma enlightened bitaw ka about
    Hmmm ... I was looking for this book on the net but much to my disbelief...

    Amazon.ca: RATZINGER and the SWASTIKA

    PAG SURE DIHA OY!! HAHA

    Hahahaha ! Is that all you got ? I need something with more substance . Actually its BILLIONS sweetie . And yes they are all wrong and here FAQ being singled out as the SANE and CORRECT person .
    Ok. Billions. Whatever.

    WHy would I watch it when it is in the news all over the place ? Just so your supposed to be " source " is credited ? How about you justify it to me the real score not basing it as documentary because it doesnt automatically it is right and true because it is documented .
    Hmmm ... is it not true then? lol Ok ... I'll agree to disagree this time nalang. I know you're just being defensive and dodging the issue.

    Do you know what you are taking about ? WHy make it so complicated ? Whats with the different set of laws there ? Why compare it somewhere else when in FACT ... we are talking about the VATICAN here being a part of the STATE of VATICAN .
    No, Mr. GUN LOVER we're talking about the VATICAN MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDAL not about the "VATICAN being a part of the STATE of VATICAN" ... Pfffttt!!!! Ka layo ra nimo wui ...

    By the way ... how can one consider it as MONEY LAUNDERING when the INVESTIGATION is not even done yet . Ikaw na lang pag imbestigador nila lol .

    If its twice in a row ... why would the state act only in the second transaction . Do you really think naay second pa mahitabo if there was a reprimand / warning / investigation sa first one ? Lol again ! And here you are na abot na ka sa CONCLUSION na they are INSANE , pa something FISHY2 pa ka etc . Like I said , get your facts straight .
    Where there's smoke, there's fire. Because they failed to disclose where the money came from, they violated Italy's Money Laundering Regulations.

    Ok, the first transaction was to JPMorgan Francfort worth $26 million, and the second transaction was to Banca del Fucino in Italy and that's when the Italian authorities suspected that something is FISHY. And now the VATICAN are saying that it was a "PROCEDURAL ERROR" ... Hmmm ... TWICE IN A ROW, eh??! LOL

    . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    I thought your GOD can make miracles? why does HE need money? Why do HIS little fanatic Catholic Priests NEED MONEY?

    They SHOULD rely on their GOD for anything they want, NOT MONEY right?

    Pasabot, their fake, their corrupt and manipulative. PAKSIT nasad inyung relihiyon sa scandal. imagine a VATICAN BANK? OMG, they have their own BANK? wahahahahaha!
    +1

    Organized crime.. Organized religion.. SAME THING.

    These Soc-like catholic defenders are in their own pathetic delusion and think that their religion is clean from all the scandals. They argue that we should not listen to the news because they're all not true... lol Their defense is very ridiculous, and one defender is accusing me of GENERALIZING. wft!? Hahaha ... Anyways ... ilaha pud na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    No indication that there is corruption,
    natigom gyud nila ang mga contributions,
    didn't they know there are millions starving in africa?
    didn't they know there are millions all over the world who have no food on their plates?
    didn't they know there are people who can't afford hospitalization?
    didn't they know there are children who can't eat 3x a day because they bar family planning laws?
    didn't they know.......................................

    why keep a huge amount of money when people are starving and they preach to give when they won't?

    since miracles of bread loaf multiplication doesn't happen anymore these days, why not do it manually using their money?

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