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  1. #121

    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    Ang pag deposit sa banko, common sense na. Ang Money Laundering, crime na. I think you know what is meant by money laundering. Kung mangutana ka kung possible ba nga nag money laundering ka, possibly kaayo. Depende nimo kung nag money laundering ka.
    It seems you didn't get my point. dili sa ta mag pre judge kay under investagation paman. wala paman gi declare nga nag money laundering gyud.

    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    Grabeha sa, suyop man sa VATICAN ang kwarta gikan sa tibook kalibutan. Pwerting dakoa jud diay ana. Makaila pa ba kaha sila ug ginoo igka dawat nila anang kwarta nga di na hapit maihap. Ang kwarta gikan sa ato, mo balik sad na nganhi sa ato?
    wala ka nag dali? mangutana sa ta sa tig ihap didto kung makaila pa ba siya ug ginoo.

    mo balik oi. pero its not in a form of money anymore. i guess you know what i mean.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    It seems you didn't get my point. dili sa ta mag pre judge kay under investagation paman. wala paman gi declare nga nag money laundering gyud.
    Well, it seems also nga wa mag abot ang atong point. I am not concerned about money laundering and I really don't care about the outcome of the investigation. My point was, ngano daghan pa man na kwarta gi deposit sa bank ang Vatican kung para man kaha na sa humanitarian purposes na kwarta. Sa Africa, grabe ang kalisod didto, Dinhi sa ato daghan sad nangamatay na lang kay way ikapa tambal sa ilang sakit, all around the world mga ing-ani nga problema, then naa may ikatabang ang Vatican ana kay naa gud kwarta sa banko. Or unsa ba, naa bay lain gitagan-an sila anang kwartaha.

    Kaning akoa, panaphaw lang sad ni kay wa man ta kabalo sa whole organization gyod sa vatican, except kung part jud siguro ka diha nga organization kabalo gyod siguro ka sa flow ana. Kung sa ako lang, himoon lang na nga flowing ang kwarta diha unta. Di man ko against anang mo donate or mo amot ka sa church, kung makita lang sad nato nga natabangan ang angay tabangan nila. Para nako, there's no reason nga ipundo ang kwarta. Matag takna dunay nanginahanglan ana, then matag takna sad dunay nahipos nga i-replinish sa nagasto. kung mahurot, then ok lang.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    Well, it seems also nga wa mag abot ang atong point. I am not concerned about money laundering and I really don't care about the outcome of the investigation. My point was, ngano daghan pa man na kwarta gi deposit sa bank ang Vatican kung para man kaha na sa humanitarian purposes na kwarta. Sa Africa, grabe ang kalisod didto, Dinhi sa ato daghan sad nangamatay na lang kay way ikapa tambal sa ilang sakit, all around the world mga ing-ani nga problema, then naa may ikatabang ang Vatican ana kay naa gud kwarta sa banko. Or unsa ba, naa bay lain gitagan-an sila anang kwartaha.
    Try to read about Peter's Penny aron naa ka idea..

    Kaning akoa, panaphaw lang sad ni kay wa man ta kabalo sa whole organization gyod sa vatican, except kung part jud siguro ka diha nga organization kabalo gyod siguro ka sa flow ana. Kung sa ako lang, himoon lang na nga flowing ang kwarta diha unta. Di man ko against anang mo donate or mo amot ka sa church, kung makita lang sad nato nga natabangan ang angay tabangan nila. Para nako, there's no reason nga ipundo ang kwarta. Matag takna dunay nanginahanglan ana, then matag takna sad dunay nahipos nga i-replinish sa nagasto. kung mahurot, then ok lang.
    managsama ta kay wala man pod koy access sa vatican mismo. mao nga huwat lang ta sa balita unya..

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    live na siya para sa next life bro. dili para karon..
    ai noh? sayup d i tong gi homily sa pari sauna. daan pa ko.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    ai noh? sayup d i tong gi homily sa pari sauna. daan pa ko.
    aw basin ako sayop bro. di baya ko pari.

  6. #126
    Its a norm na daghan violent reactions tungod kay the VATICAN name resirfaces again . Well , nice man gud siya na entity because sensationalize man .

    The thing is , kadtong mga naay violent and negative reactions , I suggest kamo na lang pag INVESTIGATOR kay it seems mas daghan mo nahibaw-an like labaw pa mo na insider sa Vatican .

    For discussion purposes , please protect the integrity of the thread . if you have nothing nice to say , keep it yourself . There is a fineline between a constructive criticism and judgemental which are all if not yet with substance pa jud just because of hatred .

    AD HOMINEMS direct or indirect has no place in this specific thread after my reply . keep it healthy and smart guys .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post
    As usual, some (not all) Church-haters are quick to jump the gun. Such anti-Catholic PREJUDICE just sucks.

    Let's not generalize. The sins of a few (if these are proven in the first place) are not the sins of an entire organization.
    hehehe... true, but unfortunately, the organization as a whole gets dragged along because the sins of the highest officials.....

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    biha pud ani nila uy.... under investigation pa gani....

    your hard emotion towards the religion noticeably gives you the anger to decide they're already guilty of the accusations....

    so what if they have lots of money? they didn't steal those...

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Yeah, Italy and Germany also are very poor.
    Is it?, or I'm just mis-informed.
    italy alang no nga naa mn diha uban dagko nga mga nag paluyo sa vatican alangan ug ma pubri na cla...ang pls pag research kuno kung ang german katoliko ba...34% ra ang catholic sa german,34% Protestant,28% Unaffiliated or others and 4% muslim...be?

  10. #130
    there was a war nga ang strategy is that they hide the weapons in the vatican church...kalimot lang jd ko sa pangan adto na giyera...

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