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    Elite Member Isteb's Avatar
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    i want to see the scattered pud mao na... although risky kay paid shoot man gud so I'll bring a Canon body as my main shooter and maybe fire a few shots from a d80 for comparison.

    I've been using the 450d for a while and I never noticed the reddish skin tone as well until a Nikon user borrowed my cam and brought the problem to my attention. It usually appears sa midtones to shadow areas. It only became very evident when he snapped a photo of the exact same model using the exact same settings.

    Personal taste ra siguro. What may be red for me may be fine for everyone else, what may be fine for me may look like something out of those effin vampire movies to everyone else.

    out of curiosity, what specific body and lenses do you usually use and what do you usually shoot?

    edit: ginoo ko naa gyud baligya online tag 32k nga d300 with lens pa gyud. di na ko katog ani
    Last edited by Isteb; 09-10-2010 at 05:27 AM.

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    @ isteb

    if you can borrow nikon d300, much better kay lahi ra kaayo sila og performance sa d80. and since d300 is your prospect unit

    i only use donated mid body(d90) and cheap donated 3rd party(tamron/sigma) lenses although ive tried personally hell-expensive ones like the trio Nano nikon lenses and some ED nikon lenses. i shoot all except food photography(since i cannot take by just shooting it, instead eating it! ^^ ).

    ive been shooting clients as my sideline for living from ambient to controlled lights in different environments to far places although im just merely a freelance. i shoot also as backup only to active photographers here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Isteb View Post

    edit: ginoo ko naa gyud baligya online tag 32k nga d300 with lens pa gyud. di na ko katog ani


    hahahaha!


    check lang actuation

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    HAHAHA kasuway bitaw ko sa una nga gipa dala ko nila ug maruya sa usa ka shoot, abi nakog snacks. ila diay gi shootan, gi kaon nako uy nayabag sila. hahahahaha

    I don't personally know anyone with a d300, kung naa man basin dili pud sila pahikap. hehehe the most expensive camera I've ever shot with was bigmakoy's 5d. ni pislit ra kos shutter release ka lima nya na ulaw na dayon ko. hehe

    how would you rate Nikon's performance when it comes to portrait in terms of sharpness and color? I mean, okay ra ba ang skin tones? Also, sakto ra ba ang sharpness kay some clients dili ganahan ug super sharp kay maklaro ilang wrinkles, perteng hago raba nila ug make-up.

    My post-processing workflow usually involves sharpening images and that part of my post processing i would like to cut out.

    here's the link for the d300 btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isteb View Post
    edit: ginoo ko naa gyud baligya online tag 32k nga d300 with lens pa gyud. di na ko katog ani
    careful with bait & switch...

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    Here are my personal thoughts of the D300.

    The D300 is a great workhorse kung baga sa rexona (won't let you down) hehehe, with regards to sharpness it depends on the glass really. Cause comparing the sharpness between my previous 18-200mm and 80-200mm @ 100mm and factory settings naa gyud difference. But if your shooting portraits I suggest go with a D90 and get a 35mm f1.8G or 50mm f1.4G and kung money is no issue why not go for a 85mm f1.4 or 70-200mm VRII.

    The really great advantage of the D300 is the speed when shooting action. The AF system of the D300 is much more superior to a D90.

    For me its a challenge sometimes to shoot low light using a D300. I would rather go for a D700 or D3s if I would be shooting in low light.

    I usually shoot in RAW so I have a personalized work-flow and I do on camera sharpening and post sharpening depends on my output (print or web). Siguro bai I suggest refining/automating you work-flow instead of taking out certain steps in your work-flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isteb View Post

    edit: ginoo ko naa gyud baligya online tag 32k nga d300 with lens pa gyud. di na ko katog ani
    bay, remember lang one of the rules in buying through the internet: If it's too good to be true, it's probably a scam

    medyo kuyaw man to imong gi hatag na link. even the picture kay dili gyud ang actual na pic...

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    wa jud ka nasayop ani sir.. ive known somebody here pud who said the same thing.. good luck sa imong decision..


    Quote Originally Posted by Isteb View Post
    quite a few things, but mostly it all boils down to sharpness.

    I've seen photographs taken with a D80 (kit lens) by people who practically knew nothing about photography and were going autopilot but the results they came up with rivaled the sharpness of photos taken with a Canon L lens.

    Unquestionable colors, unquestionable sharpness. Murag pareha ka tin-aw sa 1080p bluray nga salida; ma ehap man ang buhok

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    For you, as a portrait photographer, I think it doesn't really matter which brand you go with. Both can give you great results if you know how to use your tools properly. I know some users who switch from nikon to canon, canon to nikon and even someone who started out nikon then canon then nikon. They all have their different reasons. Sharpness, saturation, fast AF, low noise in low light and some are just plain gear heads. And sometimes there are just people who make crappy photos using a Canon and say its the equipments fault, switched to Nikon and they still make crappy photos, ergo? .

    My advice is, stick with the system you've grown up with and push it to its full potential. If you think you've grown out of your 50D, then move up to 7D or better, a full frame camera like the 5d MKII or a 1Ds Mark III - budget is not an issue right? I've seen wedding photographers with EOS 30D + f/2.8 sigma or tamron glass and they get sharp images. Food photographers with Nikon D40 + 50mm f/1.8 producing stunning images. I know a professional food photographer who's favorite cameras are the Nikon D70 and D40 and he got plenty of good images out of it. Abortretryfail is a professional photographer who has done plenty of commercial jobs with an EOS 350D and kit lens and still get out stunning results. I've shot product photos with my Canon Powershot A170 IS and the client can't even tell the difference. We'll that was the situation, if he asked to print large, then it would have been noticeable. But hey, I know they won't and it was the only available camera at that time, so I make do with what was at hand.

    I'm a canon user and I love canon. It's obvious in my posts in this forum and I don't hide it. But I'm telling you this because you've already invested 2 years of your career to it. In the other side, its not a perfect world too. You might get sharpness you've been looking for but colors might not be to your liking. In fact, I know a lot of professional Nikon users who do portraits, shooting in Neutral because they don't like the colors and would rather process the photo themselves.

    I am also an EOS 450D user who do paid photography on the sideline. I also noticed the red tone on peoples skin. I noticed that this usually appear in photos that are poorly lighted. I fix that by doing a better job myself and lighting the scene better. That simple. Sometimes kita Pinoys are just brown to reddish, so its normal too. If I hate that, I reduce the reds to my taste. Sharpness is a bit off sometimes so I change that too. I incorporate these adjustments into my workflow and most of them are already applied during import to Lightroom 3. So they don't really bother me much. With a regularly calibrated monitor, color correction is not that hard unless of course if you have vision problems i.e. color blind which is common in males.

    This forum is full of serious to amateur hobbyist. How about try getting advice from your fellow professional photographers who do this full time? I'm sure you know plenty of them. Two of the locally well known fashion/portrait photographers are Canon users (Joseph and Douglas), but I know these two guys can get the same results if you give them Nikon equipment and enough time to warm up.

    As for equipment advice, check with Chip. He knows Nikon. From me, my answer would be obvious, the EOS 5D Mark II or 1Ds Mark III. It's the only path any Canon user would like to end up at the moment.

    Whatever your choice maybe, I wish you luck! and do drop by this thread again and let us know!


    Quote Originally Posted by Isteb View Post
    well I can't remember the exact aperture the shooter used, pero the fact na iyang kuha from a Nikon kit lens kay pareha ra (or mas grabe pa) ug sharpness sa L lens sa Canon (24-105 f/4) speaks volumes. Unsa na kaha kung prime lens pa to gigamit...

    As far as I know, wala man to'y post-processing involved kay the shots were taken straight from the camera, not even on-cam editing was done.

    and naka mention pud to among instructor nga generally mas sharper ang mga shots sa D80 kaysa D90. Di daw siya sigurado kung sa shooter ba to or sa body gyud mismo...

    So, should I switch to Nikon? I'm not trying to start a flame war, BTW. I love Canon but I know that both brands have their respective strengths and weaknesses. As a portrait photographer, I'm trying to decide if switching would be the smart choice.
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    Thank you so much everyone for your great replies!

    While I do believe that a weapon is only as good as the soldier who wields it, I also believe in using the best weapon available to you.

    In this case, what the best weapon is can be argued to 2012 and back. I guess it all comes down to personal taste.

    I understand this is a huge decision and whatever I decide will likely make a huge impact on my career in one way or another. I hope I can get to test out a d300 before making a final choice.

    This weighing of the pros and cons will most likely take some time and both brands have their own strengths, I'll most likely go with the one that suits my style best.

    Or maybe I'm just a gear head who wants the best of both worlds.

    will be trying a few Nikon bodies next week, I'll try to post some pics for comparison.

    salamat, guys!

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