MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[kwicksilver]

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d man OA ato presidente, para mag pa suko suko.

Relax lng gud, mahitabo man jud ni, dha makita ang katag sa atong mga pulis kung angayan ba ni sila sa ilang mga position, puros dayon presidente basulon, ang naa didto ga negotiate mao toy basulon, pati ning media utro pud, naa untay limitation, kay init na gud ug ulo tong tawhana, pakita pa jud nga gi guyod pasulod sa patrol car ang iyang igsoon. Tinsa may d manginit ana.

Kanang mag sige ug reklamo presidente ang basulon, kamo nlay pag presidente.

Peace....

[hobie]

dili gyud bai ..luoya pud sa Presidente maoy basolon hahaha ..

[crisxahia]

Postcripts To A BloodBath

Mr. Mendoza was already upset even before he saw on television what the policemen did to his brother. The other tourists who remained inside the bus were complaining. Wei Ji Jiang wanted to go to the bathroom. Dao Chi Yu was hungry and the rest were just groaning and whining like they have forgotten that our lives rest in Mr. Mendoza's hands.

The hostage taker, as you know him was really nice. He treated us okay and even let the elders and the children leave the bus. He said your policemen treated him unfairly. He was a policeman too and was accused of doing something he had no knowledge of. But your government didn't listen so he used us to get everyone's attention.

Things would have never turned for the worst if he didn't see how his family was dragged out of their house and taken into custody. He was watching the news all the time as we huddled around each other behind the bus. He shouted some words in your language then started shooting in the air. A girl about my age started screaming. Mr. Mendoza demanded her to stop but she didn't understand English. God, he had to slash her neck with a knife just to put her to rest. Her boyfriend who tried to hit him was shot in the head.

Tension was rising. You can see in his face how scared and confused he was. The bus driver ran away leaving him alone with strangers from a distant land. I can see him walking across the aisle, sometimes pointing his machine gun to one of the tourists. But he tried his best not to hurt us, especially those who really cooperate.

I guess its in your nature not to inflict pain on others unless it was necessary. I remember him saying that he will free us before sundown and implored us to forget everything when we return home. But his words don't matter now. The policemen were trying to force their way in, while we all lied down to shield ourselves from bullets. Mister Mendoza blindly shoots at his enemies which I think kept them from rescuing us. I hear sobs under the chairs. Some were even shouting the names of their loved ones even when the air merely eat their words. Kevin Tang tried to escape when the glass door was was shattered, but one shot and he slumped on the floor with blood gushing from his mouth.

Heavy rain pitter-pattered on the rooftop. In old Chinese saying, it means an end to a struggle. Finally, somebody was able to open the escape hatch at the back of the bus. Freedom. But I knew Mister Mendoza was still alive. I knew he was just waiting for a chance to strike back at his enemies. So I told those around me not to escape. Let the authorities come for us instead. Then there was gunfire. He was firing at his enemies with a machine gun. Those who were at the escape hatch fled abandoning us once again. It's like a nightmare with no end and to wake up means a certain death. Then somebody from outside the bus threw a canister. It forced out a black smoke that is so painful to the eyes and putrid smelling to the nose. People started screaming. We cannot breathe. Some ran in front of the bus but Mister Mendoza warned them of stray bullets. It was too late. One was hit on the head, the other was hit on the shoulders. Bullets were now flying. Its like the authorities thought we were all dead. Mister Mendoza finally admits his mistake and said sorry to everyone, dead or alive. He then ran towards the front of the bus where he would meet his maker. As he passed by my chair with bullets whistling overhead, I clutched my hand on the velvet curtain and wrapped it around my face. All I could think of was to stay alive - for my child who is waiting for me back in Xinjang. I know I will survive,

I will come home.

Bang Lu Min
Survivor, Quirino Bloodbath

this is really sad.. [sigh]

[psyche54]

but as president he could have done a lot.. 1) nagpada og additonal police to secure the area, wla man gani to ma cordon og tarong ni abot nalang gabii, unya naa pai naigo na usisero.. & after naa nay crowd control, send the best of PNP or AFP, naa bitaw ang camp crame og aguinaldo sa manila.. pra ang elite teams & negotiators mao ray tua sa sud unya ang regular police maoy crowd control
2) impose a media blackout until the crisis is over, or at least hangyo sa media na dili mo hatag og live coverage, kay advantageous na sa hostage taker
3) he should have been at the helm of this matter, kay international incident man.. unya ngano wla man gi issue na statement ang malacanang.. gikan udto hangtud gabii?? kay pra dawat limpyo ra siya?? pra kung successful ang negotiations hatag ra cya award, unya kung magkayagaw, naay ra cya i-footbol na mga tawo (ala pagasa)?? when chechen rebels made a hostage situation did2 sa usa ka moviehouse sa russia, ang president mismo nila ni-issue dayon og statement na dili sila maki-negotiate, & then they made an assault, some hostages were killed & all hostage takers were killed.. ing ana ka simple pag dawat sa responsibility did2 sa ilaha leader.. asa commander in chief, naa unta nay access si noynoy sa the best teams sa PNP & AFP, unya mao unta to iya gi pada.. sa ingon pa ni bruce willis sa salida na 'tears of the sun' - "cowboy the f@ck up".. mao nay angay himuon unta ni noynoy.. grow some balls to face responsibilities & make decisions..

*** Nagpadala ug additional police force
Isn't it the judgement of the local police officer who is assigned to assess the situation? Does the chief negotiator has to tell the president to bring in more police force? Again, that is the judgement of the officer assigned to deal with the situation. You are not putting puppets in the fields, you are putting officers who graduated in PMA/PNPA...

*** Impose Media Blackout
Again, its the local officer assigned in the area to assess the situation. You mean to say, those officers would still ask PNOY what to do with the media? Isn't it an SOP to cordon the area in crisis like that? Bottom line is, our police officers doesn't know their jobs well... They are just sitting in their couches and waiting for their pay slips to be served!

*** International Crisis...
You don't talk to foreign diplomats on the situation unless you are very certain with the outcome. I think every country exercise that policy esp. matters that would affect foreign relations. You need to be certain on how the situation is going before releasing official statements.


Chain of command is not the issue here... it's our police force's incompetence!!!

Rules of Engagement should have been fully exercised! You ordered your men to sweep the situation, and yet it took them over an hour to breach the bus! That is pure incompetence!!!

[Abing]

d man OA ato presidente, para mag pa suko suko.

Relax lng gud, mahitabo man jud ni, dha makita ang katag sa atong mga pulis kung angayan ba ni sila sa ilang mga position, puros dayon presidente basulon, ang naa didto ga negotiate mao toy basulon, pati ning media utro pud, naa untay limitation, kay init na gud ug ulo tong tawhana, pakita pa jud nga gi guyod pasulod sa patrol car ang iyang igsoon. Tinsa may d manginit ana.

Kanang mag sige ug reklamo presidente ang basulon, kamo nlay pag presidente.

Peace....

Tumpak sir, I couldn't have said it better myself

[moklo]

Poor soldiers!...

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Inept

Lawm ra keo bro, basin d kasabot ang mga polis nato kung unsa ni. Clumsy lang.

[hulagway]

diri nato makita kung unsa jud ka double standard ang uban mga pinoy..if sa time pani ni gma sure ko tanan opposition na politicians would blame gma..pro kay si noynoy man ang president wala jud kisaw ang mga politiko...noynoy should have created a team that would take over the hostage negotiations..dako kaayo ug impact ni saatong nasud knwoing nga mga tourist to ang mga victims...it will send a wrong impression to other tourist the even in metro manila they are not safe anymore..and what matters most is that some PNP personnel dont even know how to respond to that kind of situation...manilas finest mankaha? SAF operatives are their waiting for orders....pro wala sila gigamit

[BIGDANE]

ang maso kay nabuhi-an pa jud nilusot sa sulod sa bus..

mao gyud...gaduha.duha ug gadali.dali ug kuha intawon ang pulis,maayo gani wa pusila,putol gyud ang tudlo or kamot..

[icon_king]

Naa tanan ang gahom sa presidente. bisan dili siya ang negosyador siya mao naay capability nga mohatag og order kay siya man gyod ang labing dako. Dili man siya ang mo negotiate pero nihimo pud unta ang presidente og lakang base sa sitwasyon. Kon mao man unta to ang gipangayo ni Capt. Mendoza nagpahatod nalang unta siya og mensahe Ni Verzosa nga ipahatag nalang tanan niyang gipangayo.. Mora ang gipangayo raman siguro niya ang iyang benepisyo sa gobyerno. dili man pud ni sakto ang ila nga tungod naa siya'y anomaliya kuhaan nalang pud nila sa tanan ang tawo. unsa ang iya, iya gyod unta kana. Iya kanang hinaguan ug nahimo siyang 10 of the most outstanding police sa Pilipinas nakadawat siya ug daghan medalya sa serbisyo sa gobyerno. Mora naman gud noon siya og gipatay sa desisyon nga gipagawas walay benepisyo, nawa sa serbisyo unyakaron na recall napud ang kaso. Pero naa man unta due process ambot sad pud kon due process ba sad gyod ang matawag nato ani.

mao ni ang akong pasabot !!! bisag dili ka mu negotiate... u still have the power to command... well, bisag police pa inyu basulon, sad-an gyud ang tanan sa iyang administration...kay they are not doing their job... ug di pa sila mga oplok, wa untay namatay...