MERGED: CHINA: Next Superpower?

[gareb]

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leonell:

China could already be considered a Superpower if you consider the size of it's domestic economy of 1 Billion people plus the fast industrialization of the country.

1 billion people would essentially mean nothing if a large portion of that said population cannot produce enough domestic demand to fuel the economy, since China's per capita income is many times less than the per capita incomes of industrialized countries. the promise of a market of 1 billion is just that, a promise, because the economic success of the country still needs to be substantially translated into significantly better living conditions for the population which translates into demand.

Remember, the Philippines has been the closest ally of the U.S since the World War I, and up until today, we have an existing military and defense agreement with the U.S.

Britain has always been the closest ally of the US ever since WWI since it sees the United Kingdom as, more or less, an equal on the world stage. the US does not threaten the UK the way it bullies its proxy state in SE Asia , the Philippines.

The case is, what if the U.S and China's rivalry becomes a global proxy war? Where will we side? To our former colonial master and closest military ally or to our new-found economic partner?

again, as the situation is now, not a single world power would want to wage war against anybody. the political and economic relationships that they have with each other makes an all-out war detrimental for everyone as such can eventually degenerate into the World War 3.

but even if we post this as a hypothetical scenario, there are still a number of circumstances that need to be considered. among these should be the reason for war, geographical position and possible retaliatory measures by either party. all of this, of course, will have to be considered if we are bent on declaring war against one side.

chad_tukes and joshua259

true, but economic power always precedes military might. (if you play computer strategy games, you should know this ) and military strength always serves economic interest

still, military strength, though it still functions as a deterrent like in the previous centuries, it is largely on stand-by and is not actively used. essentially, it is just a show of force; showing us what these powers can do. as it stands now, it functions as a de facto police force with varying vested interests on the side.

what should be considered is if China's entry into the club of major military powers serves to complement this police force, or will its entry upset the balance of join interests among them.

moot:

China is best to think that keeping good relations with the US ensures them oil access in the Persian Gulf, it has been however, building up long-term strategic links with countries hostile to the U.S. providing arms for Iran in particular. In addition to its special relations with Iran, China is also known to be a provider of WMD technologies to rouge states including North Korea, Syria, Libya and Sudan.

if i was China, i'd offer weapons to US' enemies as well, even if we are to disregard any economic gains from such transactions. the US supplies Taiwan and Japan arms anyway, so why not?

[FAQ]

Lolzz... China can't even feed half of their own people and now they're aiming to be the "next superpower"?

The chink government must embrace democracy first. Let their people elect their own governments of their choice. COMMUNISM IS NOT WORKING!! Let go of Tibet and Taiwan for Christ sake. It should be the people of Taiwan, not the Chinese Communist Party, who decide whether or not Taiwan is part of China. If China passes these tests, plus abolishes forced labour, as well as respects peoples' human rights, then, and only then, it may be on the road to becoming a so-called "superpower".

A quote from Fallout 3, "COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE!" I just thought I should let everyone know.

[gareb]

FAQ:

it isn't even "communism" in the Marxist or the Maoist sense of the word anymore. but state capitalism. besides, human rights violations are not exclusive to China alone. the US itself has it's own share and it isn't exactly a short list.

fact remains though that a country becomes "superpower" not because of the kind of government it has, but how strong its economic base is, to essentially support its military power and political influence.

[brandnewbien]

FAQ:

it isn't even "communism" in the Marxist or the Maoist sense of the word anymore. but state capitalism. besides, human rights violations are not exclusive to China alone. the US itself has it's own share and it isn't exactly a short list.

fact remains though that a country becomes "superpower" not because of the kind of government it has, but how strong its economic base is, to essentially support its military power and political influence.

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btaw, tinuod kaau ni oh "fact remains though that a country becomes "superpower" not because of the kind of government it has, but how strong its economic base is, to essentially support its military power and political influence."

[MRchurchill]

Lolzz... China can't even feed half of their own people and now they're aiming to be the "next superpower"?

The chink government must embrace democracy first. Let their people elect their own governments of their choice. COMMUNISM IS NOT WORKING!! Let go of Tibet and Taiwan for Christ sake. It should be the people of Taiwan, not the Chinese Communist Party, who decide whether or not Taiwan is part of China. If China passes these tests, plus abolishes forced labour, as well as respects peoples' human rights, then, and only then, it may be on the road to becoming a so-called "superpower".

A quote from Fallout 3, "COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE!" I just thought I should let everyone know.

Democracy doesn't work everywhere and it may not be the best form of government for many nations.

The USSR was a superpower doing the exact opposite. It was arguably more brutal and repressive than any government in modern history. The Soviet empire grew to be a superpower under Stalin and he murdered 60 million of his own people along the way.

[cebulifer]

then china has to do like stalin without the 60 million death. then maybe... they will be called a superpower.

[Tirong-say]

How about the living condition of their populace are they on a super power standard, mapareho lang unya na ni superman nga sigeng lupad2x langoy2x sa ilawom sa dagat pero buslot diay ug brep.....he-he-he

[xgoriox]

its possible, lig-on sad ning china oie.

[leonell]

leonell:



1 billion people would essentially mean nothing if a large portion of that said population cannot produce enough domestic demand to fuel the economy, since China's per capita income is many times less than the per capita incomes of industrialized countries. the promise of a market of 1 billion is just that, a promise, because the economic success of the country still needs to be substantially translated into significantly better living conditions for the population which translates into demand.



Britain has always been the closest ally of the US ever since WWI since it sees the United Kingdom as, more or less, an equal on the world stage. the US does not threaten the UK the way it bullies its proxy state in SE Asia , the Philippines.

With the current pace of industrialization China is experiencing, it will not take long for it to have a solid 1 Billion people domestic economy. These people are the one's buying and spending the salaries and thus altogether the stimulate the domestic economy.

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Ok, I'll be specific, Britain is the oldest and the closest among all but mainly in Asia or SEA, it will be us that's the oldest and the closest to the U.S. We did not become a proxy nation to Asia for nothing.

[cebulifer]

isn't japan the closest ally to the US now?