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    Wow 50/50 jud diay imo life if naay kay buhi cobra...saonz thanks for the great info herp_doctor

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    but is it not dying?or has a sickness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnC View Post
    but is it not dying?or has a sickness?
    It doesn't have to be dying to regurgitate it's meal, does it??
    Sickness... How do you know its not? And how do you know it doesnt have parasites or is not stressed out?

    Another factor for this is handling. This causes stress.

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    Hello Herp_doctor

    Ask lang unta ko unsa ni nga klase sa snake, I got this in manalili few months ago, ingon sa nag baligya python daw, pero i think this belong to a viper na klase base on the head and formation sa iya nose.. what do you think herp doc





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    looks like a cat snake hehhe ... or yet maybe a wagleri? but no, brown ra keu iyang color hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by herp_doctor View Post
    @Roy -- Still waiting for the new photos of the cobra. I need to know what sp. it is, so i would know if it's worthy keeping or releasing. Though closely looking at the photo, my money's on the Southern (N. samarensis) over the King (O. hannah), but i still have to confirm this. But whatever it is, it still needs to be released back into where it came from.

    1. If it's a King, then you probably need to release it. Kings don't bade very well in captivity and is extremely hard and dangerous to keep. Its a very specialized feeder and it grows very large and it releases a huge volume of venom in one bite, that it's very dangerous (given it's a bloody cobra). Their venom toxicity / potency (LD50) is not that high, but it compensate this shortcomings for the large quantity of venom it delivers.

    2. If it's the Southern, then you may or may not keep it (though i suggest the latter). Althought they're not as specialized feeders as the Kings, Southerns are picky tukkers too. And this would prove very cumbersome (and again dangerous) to you, as you have to force-feed it sooner if it doesn't start to feed on its own (and this would risk you getting bitten). Not to mention the bite is quite very dangerous, as even though they don't produce as much venom by quantity / volume per bite in comparison to the Kings, their venom potency / toxicity (LD50) is the 2nd most potent of all cobra species (the 1st being the Philippine cobra N. philippinensis).

    Now, the wost case scenario: GETTING BITTEN

    For the anti-venin antidotes. Kings have available anti-venom but their only readily available from ICRC of Thailand, NMRC of Vietnam, and IRPCC India. Philippines does not produce King anti-venom. This would come to mind in the event you got into a bloody little accident with a King. As it would take much time and logistics, which then leaves you none to spare.

    Southerns have anti-venom too, only produced by RITM here in the Phils.& AVRC of Australia (last time i checked they still do, that was 6years ago). Problem is that it's not readily available and it's not polyvalent with the Northern anti-venom.
    Northern anti-venom are polyvent with their southern counterparts (not in vice versa), but doesn't prove to be very effective (i base this on a personal experience). And they're also not readily available.

    I do have a couple of Northern anti-venom ampoules here to spare, but that would only give you around one extra hour to compensate on what just happened (and probably to finalize your last will & testament)... hehehe.

    Lastly, anti-venins are EXPENSIVE. You need about atleast 15-20 ampoules / 50kg. for about a week. They also don't work if your allergic to equine plasma (matter of fact, 40% of the victims die of equine plasma reaction than that of the venom).


    So think this carefully over mate. Is that herp worth keeping, or would you rather hand it over to someone who can facilitate it, or even much better, release it back to where it came from.

    After all, it need to be free.


    Cheers!!!
    gudafternoon mighty doc .....i havent seen my cuz since i took the picture of the snake so its either he's back in bohol briging him the snake or he sold it somewhere ...but anyway i left a mesage to his mom....ill txts u asap ....

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    Murag dili jud ni sya Python..murag hadlok man sya...feel nako venomous ni sya kay ang mata niya kay one line....pero si Herp_doc rajud atong pag-asa ani unsa jud ni..og ang ubang expert diri..

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    Quote Originally Posted by casper2 View Post
    Hello Herp_doctor

    Ask lang unta ko unsa ni nga klase sa snake, I got this in manalili few months ago, ingon sa nag baligya python daw, pero i think this belong to a viper na klase base on the head and formation sa iya nose.. what do you think herp doc




    That's a Dog-toothed Catsnake Boiga cynodon.
    Arboreal, nocturnal, back-fanged, mildly-venomous colubrid. And i suggest you take that mice out of it's enclosure, as that's not particularly their diet.
    This is a very hard to keep snake. Most captives don't last a year. Either they die or they find ways to escape (yes, they're great escape artist). If you ever plan on keeping this snake, make your enclosure large enough for the snkae to stretch its entire body lenght horizontally and vertically. Vivariums must also be side-open oriented (not top, mind you). Moist environment (not wet) with relative humidity (70%) and basal temp. of 25-28*celcius.
    Check for parasites (internal and external).
    They're picky tukkers, and they're quite aggressive at night too. They don't usually bite, but they expectorate this foul-smelling corrosive liquid that doesn't wash off when they're threatened or disturbed. In the vent they do bite, their venom is considerably non-life threatening, but must also be taken into consideration due to the fact that their venom delivery system is "primitive", thus inadequate. But a few serious cases of B.cynodon bites have been medically documented too.



    Quote Originally Posted by moy1moy1 View Post
    looks like a cat snake hehhe ... or yet maybe a wagleri? but no, brown ra keu iyang color hehe
    Catsnake yes, but no cigar on the Wagleri mate.
    There's never a brown color morph on Temple vipers (T. wagleri). And one factor in identifying a snake is head scalation and morphology.

    Remember that, my young Padawan... Hehehe
    Last edited by herp_doctor; 07-06-2010 at 07:18 PM.

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    wow!!! nice snakes

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    sir herp_doctor ahmmm ask lng kow wat kind of snake is a banogon and baboyon(black colored venomous snake native to leyte or phil)? is banogon a king cobra and naa bai viper diri sa phil?

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