Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[bungot25]

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@kenites: I'm just backstopping your arguments...anything to help a brother in the skeptic's circle.

@bungot25: You have to define what this Faith is that is supported by reason or science, especially in the context of the following claims: Virgin birth, Resurrection, after-life theme parks called Heaven and Hell, God having a son, etc. You can support that with reason or science? No you don't. Like I said, you have to make that leap of faith.

thats why the catholic church profess it as a mystery of Christ...God has not revealed to us yet! thats why it cant be supported....But i used science for proving God's existence...because evolution is a hoax.

[orcgod]

thats why the catholic church profess it as a mystery of Christ...God has not revealed to us yet! thats why it cant be supported....But i used science for proving God's existence...because evolution is a hoax.

If you so believe in this God, do you have any idea where he is right now? maybe a video or pictures perhaps?

[INRI]

thats why the catholic church profess it as a mystery of Christ...God has not revealed to us yet! thats why it cant be supported....But i used science for proving God's existence...because evolution is a hoax.

Naa napud ka...I-prove daw ang existence sa imo god scientifically..
ug i-prove ang evolution is hoax..
cge daw

[kenites]

Yes.... faith is also coincided with reason and it can be valid without reason coz God has not revealed to us in his mystery..just like in the church.....the church will always emphasize the mystery of Christ because he only know his divinity which somewaht incomprehensible to us because he is GOD...we cannot know GOD even angels or devils or humans..wala pa kaayo ko sure ani but most of the saints and theologians believe faith and reason is possible...

I think klaro man kaayo ang post ni Hitch bro..
What do you mean nga "faith is also coincided with reason"?
Like what you've said God is incomprehensible..
How do you accept a being that cannot be comprehended?
You need faith nah coz you cannot use rationale in proving something that is incomprehensible..

One thing bro...How can you say that evolution is a hoax? Did you really study the theory and understand it? I advice you to read the older post, kay na-istoryahan na ni before and very informative kaayo mga older post dire about evolution..
And pls do prove the existence of your God using scientific method

[kenites]

If you so believe in this God, do you have any idea where he is right now? maybe a video or pictures perhaps?

I think bungot will show you the picture/video if you show first the picture of your Flying Spaghetti Monster

[SioDenz]

thats why the catholic church profess it as a mystery of Christ...God has not revealed to us yet! thats why it cant be supported....But i used science for proving God's existence...because evolution is a hoax.

Mystery pa diay nang Faith sa mga Catholics bro? meaning wa pa moy idea?

[SioDenz]

Naa napud ka...I-prove daw ang existence sa imo god scientifically..
ug i-prove ang evolution is hoax..
cge daw

Naa nsad ning cge ug pang hambog ana iya science, nganu ma prove na sa science tanan? di pa man gani ma predict sa imu Science kung kanus-a mag linog, Ginoo na nuon imu Videohan. Prove to us first unsay mabuhat sa imung science usa ka mangita ug proof using science.

Di pa man gani mahimu sa imung science magpa adto ug tawo sa Pluto nya gamiton na nuon nimu ang Science pag Prove sa nag himu sa Universe...

[JohnLashes]

GOD jd akong tuohan ani. .. .

[hitch22]

thats why the catholic church profess it as a mystery of Christ...God has not revealed to us yet! thats why it cant be supported....But i used science for proving God's existence...because evolution is a hoax.

bungot, you're Roman Catholic. Here's old news for you:

1) The Vatican claims Darwin's theory of evolution is compatible with Christianity

2) From this article: A Catholic Scientist Looks at Evolution -

This brief survey of some historical incidents shows the ups and downs of the view of the churches, and especially of the Catholic Church, with respect to Darwinian evolution. However, one half century after Darwin research on evolution by Catholic scholars was a veritable mine field. Many saw coming another “Galileo Affair.” Nonetheless, in 1996 in a message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences Pope John Paul II declared that: “New scientific knowledge has led us to the conclusion that the theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis.” The new scientific knowledge has also led to what is now called neo-Darwinian evolution, for the most part in continuity with Darwin but obviously progressing beyond his science.

3) From this article: Vatican astronomer rips Intelligent Design theory

"Intelligent design isn't science, even if it pretends to be," said Father George Coyne. He said that if the theory is introduced in schools, it should be taught in religion classes, not science classes.

4) Here's a Youtube video of Roman Catholic Ken Miller (from the famous Dover trial) explaining the proof of our common ancestry with the great apes:
Roman Catholic Ken Miller Explaining Proof of Human Evolution

NOW WHAT? You don't agree with the Vatican. What religion do you belong to now?

[INRI]

Naa nsad ning cge ug pang hambog ana iya science, nganu ma prove na sa science tanan? di pa man gani ma predict sa imu Science kung kanus-a mag linog, Ginoo na nuon imu Videohan. Prove to us first unsay mabuhat sa imung science usa ka mangita ug proof using science.

Di pa man gani mahimu sa imung science magpa adto ug tawo sa Pluto nya gamiton na nuon nimu ang Science pag Prove sa nag himu sa Universe...

Klaroha sa daw bai kung unsa gi qoute ni bungot...ingon siya nga he will use science in proving God's existence so that is why I dare him..
Bai ang Science dili mang hambog sa dili niya kaya buhaton ug tubagon...ang method of inquiry sa science is based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principle of reasoning..Klaroha bai ha kay murag ang religion nang hambog nga kaya niya tubagon ang tanan
Stakes are high and naa sa inyo ang burden of proof,, wala man sa science coz it doesn't claim to answer absolute question, it only answer to question nga ma paluyohan ug lig-on nga ebedensya.

Sige bai it's your time to shine. pasikati mi..i-prove ang existence sa imo god!