MERGED: Metro Cebu Road Development: Flyovers or Road Widening?

[pepponeskie]

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as what I have said "gawas ug naay ika puli nga trabaho ang gobyerno nga parehas or mas labaw sa income sa jeepney driver."

[simoncpu]

Yes, this will take away the jeepney driver's source of income. Their families would suffer. In the name of progress, so be it. Let them suffer for the sake of the greater good.

Less traffic allows goods to be delivered on time. Less traffic allows more people to do more business. Transportation is vital for the economy of the city. Good transportation system boosts the economy of the city, thereby providing more job opportunities.

[pepponeskie]

Yes, this will take away the jeepney driver's source of income. Their families would suffer. In the name of progress, so be it. Let them suffer for the sake of the greater good.

Less traffic allows goods to be delivered on time. Less traffic allows more people to do more business. Transportation is vital for the economy of the city. Good transportation system boosts the economy of the city, thereby providing more job opportunities.

i agree. BUT, "let them suffer" is a different story nasad na...kung maka provide lang sad dayun ug replacement na job ang gobyerno para sa mga jeepney driver then it will be good, there will be no rallies (maybe)...note that, we let them suffer, maau nalang ug di mahimong criminal na sila nga desperately seeking for food then they turn themselves to criminal acts...then still there is no boost to the economy if ingana ang mahitabo.

[BaDz Abadia]

trains.. pareha sa hongkong... mag mrt( mtr sa ila) tanang tawo.. wala kaau sakyanan sa dan

[simoncpu]

i agree. BUT, "let them suffer" is a different story nasad na...kung maka provide lang sad dayun ug replacement na job ang gobyerno para sa mga jeepney driver then it will be good, there will be no rallies (maybe)...note that, we let them suffer, maau nalang ug di mahimong criminal na sila nga desperately seeking for food then they turn themselves to criminal acts...then still there is no boost to the economy if ingana ang mahitabo.

The government should not treat its citizens as children. If the jeepney drivers would no longer have jobs, then so be it. It's not the government's problem.

If they become criminals, then let them go to jail. If they commit heinous acts, they should suffer the death penalty. Noynoy doesn't have the balls to do this, but he should restore the death penalty.

The choice is:
A. Hundreds of "employed" drivers. Bad economy. Two million citizens that are suffering from bad transportation system. Few available jobs.
B. Hundreds of jobless drivers. Hundreds of families without food. Very healthy economy. Two million citizens that are enjoying a good transportation system. Thousands of available jobs.

The logical choice is B. Let the jeepney drivers suffer for the short term.

[miyay]

^ ka ouch kung jeepney driver ka. but i agree, sacrifice a little for the greater good. people will find other means of living, not necessarily illegal ones.

strict implementation of rules. sample lang.
1. the phasing out smoke belching vehicles. daghan mawala ani na jeepneys og karaan na taxis.
2. stiff penalties for "colurum" pujs

[peewee_toot]

^^that's more like it. i guess dili mn cgro ni lisud buhaton...

[pepponeskie]

The government should not treat its citizens as children. If the jeepney drivers would no longer have jobs, then so be it. It's not the government's problem.

If they become criminals, then let them go to jail. If they commit heinous acts, they should suffer the death penalty. Noynoy doesn't have the balls to do this, but he should restore the death penalty.

The choice is:
A. Hundreds of "employed" drivers. Bad economy. Two million citizens that are suffering from bad transportation system. Few available jobs.
B. Hundreds of jobless drivers. Hundreds of families without food. Very healthy economy. Two million citizens that are enjoying a good transportation system. Thousands of available jobs.

The logical choice is A. Let the jeepney drivers suffer for the short term.

you cannot say na "It's not the government's problem." kay kanang mga tawhana mag rally man ghapon na, nya kinsa man ang ma pwerweso? diba ang gobyerno? maau lang ug mag rally2x lang nga singgit2x, uroy ug parehas sa bangkok.

then if they become criminals tungod kay wala na silay trabaho kay kasagaran sa nato mga pinoy kapit-patalim ra ba ta, and unfortunately you will be one of their prey. diba lisud?

i agree with you nga the government should not treat its citezens as children...In my own opinion, teach them how to catch a fish and it can last a lifetime, rather than giving them a fish to eat that could last for a day.

let's say the flow of this situation is now in equilibrium, then suddendly you will take a section of the equilibrium without balancing the remaining sections, surely the situation will not be in chaos. as law of conservation of mass...mass in = mass out...

[simoncpu]

you cannot say na "It's not the government's problem." kay kanang mga tawhana mag rally man ghapon na, nya kinsa man ang ma pwerweso? diba ang gobyerno? maau lang ug mag rally2x lang nga singgit2x, uroy ug parehas sa bangkok.

Everytime mag rally ang mga jeepney drivers, kinsa ang ma perwisyo? Kadaghan na ni nahitabo. The city is at the mercy of these drivers.

If we use BRTs, the government can simply fire drivers who want to cripple the transportation system. They can replace the BRT drivers with new ones who are eager to take the job. Right now, can the government fire the jeepney drivers?

then if they become criminals tungod kay wala na silay trabaho kay kasagaran sa nato mga pinoy kapit-patalim ra ba ta, and unfortunately you will be one of their prey. diba lisud?

OK, let's make the unrealistic assumption that all jobless drivers would become criminals. In a theoretical battle between hundreds of jobless criminals vs. two million citizens, enforced by the firepower of the government army and police, who will win?

let's say the flow of this situation is now in equilibrium, then suddendly you will take a section of the equilibrium without balancing the remaining sections, surely the situation will not be in chaos. as law of conservation of mass...mass in = mass out...

So you'd rather stay in a complacent equilibrium state and ignore all opportunities for progress for fear of the unknown? Nothing remains in a constant state except change itself.

[networkguy]

gusto gani ta og changes naa jud na mga sacrifices. what we need is POLITICAL WILL and DRASTIC MOVES!