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  1. #21

    China is a state we should watch out...

    i think china have a tendency to exploit, i know US as a super power is doing some exploitation but im rather convince that china will outdo US in that field given a chance...

    im not for china replacing US but that possibility is not far from possible.. unless the rivarly between Japan and China stands still... but Japan is an aging state...

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by MRchurchill View Post
    China already is an economic superpower. FYI CHina is America's biggest lender and while America maybe China's biggest market, their economic relationship obviously is more beneficial to the Chinese than it is to the Americans.

    Add the fact that America produces less scientists and engineers than China hell even India, plus the economic woes ailing the west and the aging of their population, I believe it will only be a matter of time before China overtakes the USA in terms of not only economic power but military as well. It's bound to happen in our lifetime.

    Best thing to do right now is to learn Mandarin.
    Their 'technology' is based on cheap copies from foreign country innovations (with a few exceptions). They maybe graduating more 'engineers' and 'scientists' but guess where most of them go for their Ph'Ds and research projects?

    They're a very protective society, and when their economy goes to the dogs, they'll start blaming foreigners once again for their economic woes (look at the Google debacle). Don't get me wrong; I don't hate China or anything, but if you look at the facts I've presented, they really have a lot to work on, and I won't hold my breath for them to improve on it.

    Again, like I've said, it will take them a very long time to match US military power, not something we are likely to see in our lifetime.
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  3. #23
    dli ni layo mahitabo...currently here n china ryt now for almost a year, i observed na grabeh ilang mga development jd..

  4. #24
    ^^mao jd. wa ta kahibaw, any time sila na d i ang powerful...

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Visual C# View Post
    Their 'technology' is based on cheap copies from foreign country innovations (with a few exceptions). They maybe graduating more 'engineers' and 'scientists' but guess where most of them go for their Ph'Ds and research projects?
    The US of course and asians currently top courses offered in distinguished engineering and scientific institutions. So what if the USA is the best place to earn a science or engineering degree? What's to stop these Chinese students from teaching what they learned abroad at home? It doesn't change the fact that China currently produces more engineers and scientists than the US.

    It's actually cheaper to copy than to develop your own technology. So while the Americans tend to spend billions on the development of a particular product, you will always expect to find a Chinaman who found a way to make an exact replica that does exactly the same thing for a few million. There goes market share with the chinaman earning more exponentially.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visual C# View Post
    They're a very protective society, and when their economy goes to the dogs, they'll start blaming foreigners once again for their economic woes (look at the Google debacle). Don't get me wrong; I don't hate China or anything, but if you look at the facts I've presented, they really have a lot to work on, and I won't hold my breath for them to improve on it.

    Again, like I've said, it will take them a very long time to match US military power, not something we are likely to see in our lifetime.
    What the Chinese have proven time and again is their willingness to be brutal even towards their own people for any goal the government wants to attain. As opposed to Americans who literally start crying and marching on the streets after losing a few thousand in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    A threatened China will have both the money and willingness to compete with any contending power. I believe China will be a superpower in the near future, near enough at least to see it in our lifetime.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by MRchurchill View Post

    What the Chinese have proven time and again is their willingness to be brutal even towards their own people for any goal the government wants to attain. As opposed to Americans who literally start crying and marching on the streets after losing a few thousand in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    A threatened China will have both the money and willingness to compete with any contending power. I believe China will be a superpower in the near future, near enough at least to see it in our lifetime.
    im afraid of this one...

  7. #27
    di, wala kaayuy friends ang china

  8. #28
    I don't think its helpful for us to be pointing fingers at China and debating whether or not it already is a superpower, or will become one. What is more important is to consider how an unbelievably backward country like China, has been able to leapfrog our own in less than a generation's time. I find it funny that people are pointing a finger and laughing at China for copying this or that and never having invented anything. At least they can copy and manufacture things! How about look at our own country, we can't even produce copies that any country would want to buy. Our number one export is human beings and most of them are domestic helpers or construction workers who work slave-labor rates in countries like the Middle East and Hong Kong (which is a part of China).

    It is far more important to consider whether or not the Philippines will even become a relevant country within ASEAN rather than worry about whether or not China will be a superpower. After all, it hardly matters who the superpowers in the world will be, be it China or the U.S. or India, if we as a country can't even be taken seriously by our own neighbors! Who cares whether or not China will be a superpower. I'm more interested in, will we ever one day become a non insignificant laughing stock country of Asia!! I think never, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    im afraid of this one...
    Whether or not China will be the superpower or the U.S. or India, you can be assured of one thing. They will always bully countries like the Philippines because our leaders are idiot and have made our country a weakling incapable of defending itself. We can't even win a civil war in our own country. Why worry about China.. you should worry more about Indonesia (which at one time drew their country's map in the same color as our own) because any of the ASEAN countries can win a war against us in one day if they invaded us. I mean what are we going to defend ourselves with? Dilapidated arapara aircraft that will crash the moment a foreign fighter jet stares at it? Our army which is armed with soviet-class weaponry that will misfire and take out our soldier's eye with greater frequency than actually hitting the enemy? Let's be worried more about what our own leaders are doing to our country than what these phantom menaces abroad will do.

    As the saying goes "walay mo daog-daog kung walay magpa-daog daog". Unfortunately the self-serving nature of our people and our selfishness, crab mentality and unbridled greed and laziness are going to do us in and ensure that regardless of who the superpower is, we will always be the punching bag that gets pushed around not only by that superpower but by other mini-powers and even by countries we once considered our inferiors. The moment we stop being incompetent as a nation is the moment we can even start worrying about the big picture. Let's clean up our own mess and worry about our own backyard before criticizing our neighbors who are building mansions down the street while we run around in our little collapsing nipa hut.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    I don't think its helpful for us to be pointing fingers at China and debating whether or not it already is a superpower, or will become one. What is more important is to consider how an unbelievably backward country like China, has been able to leapfrog our own in less than a generation's time. I find it funny that people are pointing a finger and laughing at China for copying this or that and never having invented anything. At least they can copy and manufacture things! How about look at our own country, we can't even produce copies that any country would want to buy. Our number one export is human beings and most of them are domestic helpers or construction workers who work slave-labor rates in countries like the Middle East and Hong Kong (which is a part of China).

    It is far more important to consider whether or not the Philippines will even become a relevant country within ASEAN rather than worry about whether or not China will be a superpower. After all, it hardly matters who the superpowers in the world will be, be it China or the U.S. or India, if we as a country can't even be taken seriously by our own neighbors! Who cares whether or not China will be a superpower. I'm more interested in, will we ever one day become a non insignificant laughing stock country of Asia!! I think never, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
    The topic is about China's superpower status, and whether you agree to it or not. The Philippines is a non-issue here.
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