CUESHE incident!! (drum related)

[EZRA]

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DAGGET.. let's keep it civilized... don't throw any personal attacks and questioning my integrity as a site moderator in the process, okay?? I've been a site moderator here for the past 3-4 years.. I've been a very just and reasonable moderator. So please, before you throw any accusations.. know who you're dealing with first.

by the way, VINCI didn't say CUESHE wrecks equipments... he merely said that the drummer left dents on his snare drumhead. So palihug, dili ta mag himo himo ug storya.


Dili ra sab na ang issue diri.Â* Ang pag breakdown sa drum setup unya wala gi uli, that issue should also be addressed.Â* Ni sibat ra diretso ang drummer sa CUESHE, gi duol nalang ni VINCI ang roadie para i balik ang original setup.

DAGGET... ug ikaw naa sa lugar ni VINCI.. unsa man imong buhaton.. di ka mo reklamo?? after being given the runaround, mo utong na lang ka?

[Mabix]

Respeto lng jud bai sa uban gamit. ako gali natagak unya naguba nako ang adapter pra fx sa ako g.uslan nga la ko kaila, ilisdan man gali nko dayun. sila pa kaha nga naay income unya naa pa jud manager. tsk tsk tsk.

[dagget]

would this vinci really write an incident report if it were an ordinary unkown band or group.... i don't think so.....

if you say there is a security deposit for all destroyed equipments then it should be out by now..... even in the newspapers.....

if they destroyed a truckload of equipment who wouldn't complain...... that's more common sense to me....

[EZRA]

Do you know Vinci well enough to make up such deduction?? or is this just pure assumption?
Sa imong huna huna man gud, tungod sikat ang banda, mao nga ni reklamo dayon si Vinci.. you also have to consider... Vinci is a session musician, a hired gun.. he backs performing artists and what not (sa kani nga gig, he was backing ARA MINA). I don't think Vinci was targeting Cueshe's drummer because sikat ang Cueshe... it's a simple fact nga Cueshe's drummer tore down his setup and didn't put it back the way it was until the roadie was asked to do so.... and it's also the fact that Cueshe's drummer left dents on Vinci's snare drumhead... that's it. Don't try to look at it otherwise.

Security deposits serves its purpose... and why would it go to the papers?? it's not that much of a big deal... it is standard operating procedure when you're renting out equipments.

Whoever said that they destroyed a truckload of equipment?? Vinci only complained about the drummer.. not the whole band. Did he even mention anything about the other band members destroying equipments?

DAGGET.. are you a working/performing musician? You really have to be one to be able to relate to the situation. Like what MABIX mentioned... he accidentally destroyed an FX power adapter, without any hesitation, he replaced it right away.

[adminroot]

First GAY BAND sa pinas....kweshe

[dagget]

ingat kayo kung
makaka-alternate nyo yung drummer ng CUESHE, baka wasakin pa gamit nyo nyan-------isn't vinci saying that cueshe drummer might wreck the equipments.... so he is making conclusions...

so reading it I would say that cueshe wrecks equipments....

[EZRA]

Drummer ng Cueshe iyang gi sulti... dili ang tibuok banda.. ka klaro ana.... and he also said "BAKA" which means MAYBE or there's a possibility that he might wreck your equipments.

Besides, he also has the right to make conclusions because it already happened to him. Pero he didn't make a general comment towards the band, he singled out the drummer.

A dent on the drumhead may mean several things... but a main factor ana is ang technique ug unsaon pag bunal sa drum. Ug dili usbon ang technique, chances are mao gihapon ang mahitabo the next time he plays.

Klaroha kuno ug interpret ang iyang statement bai... murag you're trying to make something out of it bisag wala.

[dagget]

siya ga write sa letter

mao na akong pag interpret.... kung wala siya nag sulat ug bashing letter.... wala pud koy interpreton....

anyway i'm still convince this is no more than a bashing thread.... supported by a site administrator.....

neutrality is the word.....

[EZRA]

He wrote the letter... pero sayop imong interpretation kay you're trying to put malice on his statements.Â* You're even making up stuff, putting words into his mouth so to say.Â* Mo insist gyud ka nga naa siya'y kalagot daan sa CUESHE... you even suggested nga gi setup ang drummer... thoe whole thing was planned.Â* You keep insisting nga THIS THREAD is about the BAND and not the DRUMMER.Â*

How did you ever come up with that idea

He wrote the letter just to warn fellow drummers sa yahoo egroups (PINOYDRUMS).Â* Akong gi post iyang message diri just to spread the word around and give people the heads up.Â*

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By the way... I can't be neutral in this because I myself started the thread.Â* I clearly stated my position on the topic on the 2nd post sa thread.Â* Â*I started the thread without malice yet ikaw, imong i insist nga biased sab ko against CUESHE.Â* Kapila na ko ni mention sa akong side nga wala koy reason to hate THE BAND kay wala kaayo koy kalibutan ana nila... pero still, mo insist gihapon ka nga biased ko.
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Ikaw kaha bai, ibutang ka sa situation ni VINCI... what would you do... Mo utong lang ka? Given that people have their on way of settling things... Vinci opted to warn other drummers.... ikaw? unsaon man nimo?

[Mabix]

hmmm, from what've read naa daw incident nihappen similar to this and still the same person involved. Isa lang gusto pasabot ni vinci bai, even big bands (with big managers and big labels, so to speak) should be responsible. if you're a low profile musician unya way ayo imu income, angal jud ka. matud pa ato niya, dli sayun makapalit ug drum head.

dli mana gub.anay ug ngalan pasabot ni vinci cguro. he just wanted to WARN katong mga alternates sa katong drummer gpasabot niya.another thing, gusto sad cguro niya ipahibaw sa katong drummer nga he's doing it the wrong way. we could learn a thing or two about this. sa tinuod lng dli ra kanang drummer nga ing ana. the only thing wrong about this scenario is that wala lang jud ni take responsiblity sa actions ang management or even the band/band members themselves.