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  1. #221

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    naa koi i base na story sa bible to illustrate my point...when god ordered abraham to kill his son isaac without any reason at all..and to our surprise abraham complies without even asking why..even isaac himself consented to being killed because it's the will of god..then in a split second an angel appeared and was able to stop abraham from stabbing his son...saying na nakapasar na sya sa test sa ginoo...now sa akoang pagsabot..is that an example of blind faith?..blind obedience..so unsa mai gi exhibit ni abraham?...blind faith or not..bahala na..i have faith in god..sya btaw gasugo nga patyon nako akoang bugtong anak.
    So you believe bro that that account in the Bible really happened?

    they shouldn't

    mostly kai herd mentality..pero i know dli sila bugo..maulaw lang sila mu question...it's either nagpa buang2x nlang or hasulan na mangutana kai lainon ug sabot sa ubang tao or sa mga pari.
    But many believers do doubt their faith bro...

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    in other words..ang big bang theory is just a theory..if naai small bang theory na na discover which is more apt..and is plausible than the big bang theory in regards to the origin of the universe then by all means ilisan sa scientific community ang theory on the origin of the solar system..the big bang theory today holds ground pa..unless there's something else that debunks it and presents a more precise theory...dli sya absolute truth.
    When you say that it is only a theory, do you mean to say that it's not true? We may already be OT.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    if that's the case then why did he allow the devil to take all of Job's possessions..it all started ra bya sa hamon sa demonyo..na iyaha na mapabali si Job sa iyang pagtuo sa ginoo if mawala ang tanan..isn't that a bit sadistic? or we shoudn't question god's will...kai lagi mao to ingon ni treize na presumptous ra lagi ang tao to question god's motives...it seems na dli man fair para kang Job..kai in the first place his faith in god isn't based on material wealth alone..sa tinuod paman gani kai nanikas ang ginoo sa yawa..kabaw na gd sya daan na dli na mubali..dehado gamay ang demonyo..it's a no contest.
    So you believe that that account in the Bible is also true?

  4. #224
    @joseph

    no i don't believe in it..pero im using that as a bases for my point...so what kind of god do you believe in?..

    if daghan ni doubt then the better..pero the time of christianity is not yet over..ilaha gd nang gipaningkamotan ug maayo..if you work for something then naa jd nai agi..same with the christianity..their time will pass.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    So you believe that that account in the Bible is also true?
    to prove my point lang gd..ikaw dli diay ka mutuo?

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    When you say that it is only a theory, do you mean to say that it's not true? We may already be OT.
    ani ni...sa unang panahon..ang romano katoliko nituo nga ang kalibutan maoy center sa space..that was the agreed fact..and wlai ni kontra ana..until naabot si galileo nga niingon nga ang sun mao center sa solar system..gkataw-an pag ayo si galileo pero at time passed nahibaw-an ug na prove sa scientific community nga ang sun jd diay ang center sa solar system...so a theory is not exactly the 100% truth..pero it's the closest thing sa truth..now if naai pa laing theory nga mas closer sa truth..then ilisan ang karaan na theory to make way for the new one.


    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    When you say that it is only a theory
    when imoha nang gi undergo ug experimentation ang theory..if consistent sya then it's a valid theory...unless there's another more solid one than the last

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    @joseph

    no i don't believe in it..pero im using that as a bases for my point...so what kind of god do you believe in?..
    Ah okay. So you believe that that account in the Bible of Abraham or Job didn't really happen... So I guess there shouldn't really be a problem, right? After all, if those accounts didn't really happen, then we may be left with a mythical story about Abraham or Job, which means that God may never have commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son or he may never have allowed Job to suffer.

    if daghan ni doubt then the better..pero the time of christianity is not yet over..ilaha gd nang gipaningkamotan ug maayo..if you work for something then naa jd nai agi..same with the christianity..their time will pass.
    You mean you want Christianity to fade away?

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    to prove my point lang gd..ikaw dli diay ka mutuo?
    Oh, I do believe in the Bible, being a Christian myself.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Ah okay. So you believe that that account in the Bible of Abraham or Job didn't really happen... So I guess there shouldn't really be a problem, right? After all, if those accounts didn't really happen, then we may be left with a mythical story about Abraham or Job, which means that God may never have commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son or he may never have allowed Job to suffer.
    yes a myth jd..so no abraham really existed nor job no isaac, no commandment to kill someone...not even god..hahaha!! haai, there really is no god at all..



    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    You mean you want Christianity to fade away?
    it will fade whether i like it or not..that's a theory to be contested..haha!!

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    ani ni...sa unang panahon..ang romano katoliko nituo nga ang kalibutan maoy center sa space..that was the agreed fact..and wlai ni kontra ana..until naabot si galileo nga niingon nga ang sun mao center sa solar system..gkataw-an pag ayo si galileo pero at time passed nahibaw-an ug na prove sa scientific community nga ang sun jd diay ang center sa solar system...so a theory is not exactly the 100% truth..pero it's the closest thing sa truth..now if naai pa laing theory nga mas closer sa truth..then ilisan ang karaan na theory to make way for the new one.

    when imoha nang gi undergo ug experimentation ang theory..if consistent sya then it's a valid theory...unless there's another more solid one than the last
    Ah okay, so you think that the Big Bang theory best explains what we know of our universe? We have no disagreement there.

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