Why Is God Always Innocent?

[Ramini]

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as an atheist i don't deny the existence of a God because in the first place there is no God thus there's nothing to deny.

if there's nothing to deny because there is no god in the first place then there's no reason to label oneself pd (eg. atheist) hehehe!!!

[miyay]

^ true!

[Soul Doctor]

as an atheist i don't deny the existence of a God because in the first place there is no God thus there's nothing to deny.

So hows your relationship with your father? just curious.
If you dont mind me asking.

[Ramini]

my father and me are okay..wla jd problem had some arguments but nothing really serious even when i decided to try to live on my own gpugngan gani ko..so my parents is not in a hurry to get rid of me...hehe!! don't generalize..i never had any problems with authority..i never committed any crime nor had any hits inig kuha nakog NBI clearance goes to show na gamay ra ang mga maldito na parehas nkog name..gmay to non existent..

[tokidoki]

^^ I guess your personality doesn't fit the profile of an atheist as someone initially thought.

[chad_tukes]

Are you saying bro that what happened in Haiti and others is proof that God doesn't exist?

no, i'm saying that what happened in Haiti is proof that GOD didn't give a rat's ass about the earthquake.

I don't know what to make of Pat Robertson's remarks. Anyway, are you arguing that God doesn't exist because of the presence of evil and suffering in the world?

you are taking things out of context. i NEVER said in the first post that GOD doesn't exist (although i'm an atheist, but i'm not implying the absence of GOD in this thread). it was a question as to WHY God ignores this, when in fact, as what the scripture says, he's supposed to be this all-loving, all-knowing GOD. a contradiction of all sorts.

[chad_tukes]

Yeah, I think that's what he's asking, too, "Why did God allow all those bad things to happen?" But does that mean that he actually believe God exists but that he allows evil things to happen, or does he mean something else?

that is a totally different question. when you ask, "Why did God allow all those bad things to happen?", it's just like saying GOD is indeed powerful, which is not asking a question but making a conclusion---which limits the question to suggest that GOD is real. but i ain't a believer bro, that's why i choose to ask, "Why is GOD innocent?"---an open-ended question that cross examines the nature of this Judeo-Christian GOD---whether you're a believer or not.

[chad_tukes]

Being an atheist has deeper cause in a person.
Most atheist I know have relationship problems with their father.

When you question your fathers actions and decisions,
somehow, you eventually question your God.

Because it is easier to deny importance of your father than to deal with him.
Then later you deny the importance of a God.
And finally, it is better to deny the existence of a God.

an unfair stereotype. might as well say, the qualifications for being an atheist are:

- he has to hate the world around him.
- he has to have had a bad relationship with his father.
- he grew up with a nagging mother.
- he was forced to go to church by his parents.
- something unfavorable happened in his life for him to hate GOD.
- he hates GOD.

[josephdc]

no, i'm saying that what happened in Haiti is proof that GOD didn't give a rat's ass about the earthquake.

Oh, so are you saying then bro that you actually believe that God is to blame for the deaths in the earthquake? Are you saying that what happened in Haiti is proof of God's apathy? Aren't you assuming, then, that God exists? If so, doesn't that mean you're actually a theist?

you are taking things out of context. i NEVER said in the first post that GOD doesn't exist (although i'm an atheist, but i'm not implying the absence of GOD in this thread). it was a question as to WHY God ignores this, when in fact, as what the scripture says, he's supposed to be this all-loving, all-knowing GOD. a contradiction of all sorts.

Again, aren't you actually assuming in your statement that God exists?

[josephdc]

that is a totally different question. when you ask, "Why did God allow all those bad things to happen?", it's just like saying GOD is indeed powerful, which is not asking a question but making a conclusion---which limits the question to suggest that GOD is real. but i ain't a believer bro, that's why i choose to ask, "Why is GOD innocent?"---an open-ended question that cross examines the nature of this Judeo-Christian GOD---whether you're a believer or not.

But by asking bro, "Why is God innocent?" aren't you actually assuming that he exists and, as you pointed out, that we can therefore "cross-examine" his nature or character? By asking that question, aren't you in fact presupposing that he exists and that his character (e.g., his goodness) ought to be questioned because he did not prevent natural evils like the earthquake in Haiti?