Why Is God Always Innocent?

[fingolfin]

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this is the funniest ever. just goes to show how delusional you are. it's a simple as this bai kebs. if we are right, then F you. you just wasted 3/4 of your life believing in something that never existed. LOL. if you are right, then f*ck it, what's there to lose? if GOD asks us what the heck were we thinking, then i'll say to his face, it's your fault for making yourself so damn MYSTERIOUS.



who knows the freaking answer? nobody knows the freaking answer, to tell you honestly. so don't go pretend you know the answer, coz you don't. how did you know GOD has freewill? i don't know GOD had the freewill, that's why i was asking.

.. very nice point indeed chad. if god does exist, it's his biggest error for not presenting himself fully to his creation ( man ). Why all these mystery ??


.. and as to an answer, no one alive can ever know. Be it the highest order in religion or the smartest scientist, note the word... ALIVE ... again, only when we die shall we know all the answers.




.. and here is the best scapegoat analysis of god from the religious point of view:

- if you are suffering then it is considered as a trial

- if you have a lot then it is considered as a grace from god.


.. it's a win win situation for God. which is truly ridiculous.


.. oh, and the best of it all is when they try to rationalize those people who are still suffering even if they are very much a devout or have lived their lives in doing prayers. Best example would be those women who always pray inside the santo ninyo church, those sellings candles .... look at them, they still haven't got any grace or reward from god from all their sufferings for Him. Why well, the most common answer i get is this our life on earth is just temporary, what's important is our life after death.. that i could say that god is one crazy and lunatic god.


.. i mean, is anybody really deserving to suffer or deserved to have a grand life if it so, if our lives are as they say, PREDESTINED by God. Then how come God destined some to have a life of pain, while others have a life of bliss. What is his criteria for this ?? is he discriminating




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[tokidoki]

because when atheists like myself asks a question that nobody can answer, you automatically view it as dumb.

Mosugot ko ani bai but in this practical application: Balik ko college and if the professor asks me a question I can't answer I can call it dumb.

WOw! Deans lister ko ana all throughout college! I don't have to answer a single exam because I can simply call them dumb if I don't know the answer. LOL

[mr_kyme]

For me God is always innocent, cuz he is my faith and He is a good one.

[Existanz]

it's not a dumb question; you just chose to give a stupid answer. there are no dumb questions here, only stupid answers. gets? that's the problem with you guys, because when atheists like myself asks a question that nobody can answer, you automatically view it as dumb. free inquiry promotes healthy skepticism, which obviously some of you don't have here.

Duh oi, for an atheist all religions are a form of stupidity one way or another...and for a believer replying deep from his faith and not based on any scientific ek-ek is a monumental stupidity anyways hehehe...

You might as well ask if Santa Clause has freak'n freewill for not giving gifts last Christmass...what's the difference between Santa and God to you? except for the fact that the Malls earned from Santa's fame while the religious mullahs earned a windfall from God's...hehehe..

Healthy skepticism my butt...admit it to yourself, you enjoy it- making life miserable for em' folks in crutch. It reassures your in knowing constantly that people who are too stupid to believe in God still can't really answer you straight X or Y regarding what they believe...a consolation 'perhaps' for your being a miserable glorious atheist. Studies shows that atheists folks are most likely to get depressed than em' 'folks in crutch'..

This of course is not direct personal attack to you Chad as an atheist...I know your quite at peace and contented in being one.

[chad_tukes]

Duh oi, for an atheist all religions are a form of stupidity one way or another...and for a believer replying deep from his faith and not based on any scientific ek-ek is a monumental stupidity anyways hehehe...

so you admit that religion/faith in general is stupid and therefore irrational. that's good to know. i least expect this from a believer like yourself---to bluntly admit that his faith is STUPID.

You might as well ask if Santa Clause has freak'n freewill for not giving gifts last Christmass...what's the difference between Santa and God to you? except for the fact that the Malls earned from Santa's fame while the religious mullahs earned a windfall from God's...hehehe..

technically, there is a huge difference. ask yourself this:

- is Santa Claus being venerated?
- do people worship Santa Claus and regard him as their SAVIOR?
- are people willing to give their life for Santa?
- do people actually go to Church to worship Santa?

it's kinda stupid to ask if Santa has his own freewill to give gifts or not. you're adding insult to injury by implying that people do actually believe this, and that they are a lot more stupid than you think for believing Santa has the freewill. are you guys really that stupid? i didn't think so.

Healthy skepticism my butt...admit it to yourself, you enjoy it- making life miserable for em' folks in crutch. It reassures your in knowing constantly that people who are too stupid to believe in God still can't really answer you straight X or Y regarding what they believe...a consolation 'perhaps' for your being a miserable glorious atheist. Studies shows that atheists folks are most likely to get depressed than em' 'folks in crutch'..

atheists are more likely to get depressed? this is a common misconception to imply that believing in GOD does, in fact, bring meaning to their lives. thus, living an atheist life is a meaningless life, therefore, they are more likely to get depressed. please continue living in fantasy land brother.

This of course is not direct personal attack to you Chad as an atheist...I know your quite at peace and contented in being one.

no worries.

[xiao-xiao]

Healthy skepticism my butt...admit it to yourself, you enjoy it- making life miserable for em' folks in crutch. It reassures your in knowing constantly that people who are too stupid to believe in God still can't really answer you straight X or Y regarding what they believe...a consolation 'perhaps' for your being a miserable glorious atheist. Studies shows that atheists folks are most likely to get depressed than em' 'folks in crutch'..

daghay atheist diri sa istorya nga tig-tambay S&O forum... murag kung mu-visit sila sa istorya kay diretso dayon sulod S&O... ngano kaha? hehe... tanawa gani na si tokidoki (haha pranka lng ko)... halos naa sa S&O tanan iya posts. haha
ganahan cguro sila sa feeling nga bright daw sila paminawon. hehe

[tokidoki]

“Of course not. Gods never actually show up. They only exist in human’s minds, like money and morality.” -- Queen (True Blood)

[josephdc]

where was God in:

- the Haiti Earthquake (100,000 killed)
- the Tsunami (500,000 killed)
- the Holocaust (6,000,000 killed)
- Rwanda (nearly 1,000,000 killed)

why is it that when good things happen, we credit "GOD" for it. but when bad things happen, for some reason, we always seem to blame GOD's creation (human beings) rather than GOD himself. didn't GOD create everything according to his plan? what exactly is the "divine" reason that GOD allow things to happen like this? it's terrible, horrific, and in contradiction to the attributes of this so-called GOD... the loving, caring GOD.

Are you saying bro that what happened in Haiti and others is proof that God doesn't exist?

so, when bad things happen, GOD is innocent. remember what Pat Robertson said about the earthquake in Haiti?

when Haiti was a French colony, freedom fighters "swore a pact to the devil," saying, "We will serve you if you will get us free from the French. And so the devil said, ‘Okay, it's a deal.’” Ever since, Robertson continued, "they [Haitians] have been cursed by one thing after the other."

where is GOD in this sentence? please don't give me the FREEWILL crap (excuse my language). if man has freewill, why is it that GOD doesn't seem to have the FREE 'EFFIN WILL to stop these horrific deaths?

I don't know what to make of Pat Robertson's remarks. Anyway, are you arguing that God doesn't exist because of the presence of evil and suffering in the world?

[josephdc]

Anyway, assuming God is omnipotent, in turn Him being "omnibenevolent" is a big misconception among believers. If he is, in addition to being omnipotent, then there would be absolutely no suffering in the world. Of course, this kind of logic will be overturned if you believe that God has a "greater scheme" to let these things happen:

Why do you say bro that if God is all-loving, there would absolutely be no suffering in the world?

I do believe though that some people (who are lucky enough to live) find enlightenment in the midst of utter suffering, but think about it- does it really require 100,000 or 6,000,000 dead to realize enlightenment or to teach a lesson?

How can we know that 100,000 or 6,000,000 is too much? Are we saying that the quantity and quality of suffering in the world makes it improbable that God exists?

[josephdc]

i'm talking about the Judeo-Christian GOD in the Bible, not the GOD of the universe. afterall, the word "GOD" is just a name.

The Judeo-Christian God is the God of the universe.