Satanism and Heavy Metal Music

[kebotDiNaMute]

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Mao jud! maypa ang gititle sa thread kay 'SATANISM AND SATANIC HEAVY METAL MUSICIANS' (emphasis on the 'ians').

basically, what makes a satanist, IMHO, is himself, not his music.

Dba, even if you live in a less fortunate place, at least one of yous would try to get out and be UNLIKE that place, but end up lovin' it cause that's where u came from. (e.g. Apl De Ap. No, he is not heavy metal but the analogy is the same)

That's the same thing in heavy metal, you might listen to even the most satanic of all satanic bands, but then go to Church every Sunday. then end up listening to it, having no satanic ideals yourself at all and still love Him. Heck, i went to Sto Nino gnina kay start nasad sa 9day pre-sinulog novena masses.

PIT SENYOR!

OT Ahay nindut manukar nig simulog?

READ SNO Section... you will get wat you ask for. Its just we are in the middle of discussion and mods move it to headbang tribe. Sorry for bad publicity.

[kebotDiNaMute]

Its because of alot of accusations with very little investigation that these labels like metal music get treated like satan music in the first place. and the people, who probably do the least research, who listen to these accusations will be dragged into the thread and supposing one or maybe 3 out of 10 of the total population of fans lets say the fans are about a million happen to really dig the band, in a weird way like worship wont live without thier music kind of way, happen to hear from someone that their fave artists are devil worshipers or such, one effect would be that they would be devastated or they would follow this bit of unconfirmed info. if theres a problem here its that people tend to be really ignorant at times.

because they are not reading the first post. When the title states "As good as it Gets" what do you think it is? Yes we are accusing each other ignorant... but i dont intend this post here... then people just jump and bang their heads!

OT: Fin is a MODS but doesn't act one.. lols! He can close the thread if he wants... but he wants to promote he is smart and he is cool! lols! I don't advertise... i don't care either.

[fingolfin]

.. kebs... not only in music you are ignorant. but also here in istorya.net .... fyi, im not the one who moved this thread here in music and radio..

.. and read your own title: SATANISM AND HEAVY METAL MUSIC ...


..now, which is the bigger issue there ?? satanism or heavy metal ?? of course, it's heavy metal music ... and hence, this discussions is more about the aspects of heavy metal music and music in general, and thus, it's transferred here in Music and Radio.



..hahayz nimo kebs.. .. stop humiliating yourself. Just look at the post and opinions of the true musicians, they are ORIGINAL AND SINCERE. Unlike yourself, first of all, your topic isn't your own opinion, it's from wikipedia. and just look at your replies, it's nonsense, full of one-liner nonsense.

.. it's not the thread that doesnt belong here in Music and Radio... but you.

[linkinmark090791]

.. kebs... not only in music you are ignorant. but also here in istorya.net .... fyi, im not the one who moved this thread here in music and radio..

.. and read your own title: SATANISM AND HEAVY METAL MUSIC ...


..now, which is the bigger issue there ?? satanism or heavy metal ?? of course, it's heavy metal music ... and hence, this discussions is more about the aspects of heavy metal music and music in general, and thus, it's transferred here in Music and Radio.



..hahayz nimo kebs.. .. stop humiliating yourself. Just look at the post and opinions of the true musicians, they are ORIGINAL AND SINCERE. Unlike yourself, first of all, your topic isn't your own opinion, it's from wikipedia. and just look at your replies, it's nonsense, full of one-liner nonsense.

.. it's not the thread that doesnt belong here in Music and Radio... but you.

OT if this was facebook, i'd've already liked this post.

[linkinmark090791]

OT: Fin is a MODS but doesn't act one.. lols! He can close the thread if he wants... but he wants to promote he is smart and he is cool! lols! I don't advertise... i don't care either.

he is smarter than you. also, i wouldn't close the thread either coz i know na daghan ang tao na makagive sa ilang opions ani na topic.

why close? it's nice to read and add more to.

oh. one more thing. you obviously advertise wikipedia.

[dmelsie]

--- yes, i can. But unfortunately, mods, transfer this post to here. this was not intended to be here. SNO = Spirituality and OCCULT, satanism is Occult.

"OH MY GOD WE ARE SATANIC BAND"
--- hehehe, too bad you go beyond what I meant... I never mentioned you are one! see the first posts if your band is there or else keep in line of the argument. If you think you are, i dont even care does that feel better... not my problem though.

please read the whole example not just qoute one sentence

i read since first page to page 15

[dmelsie]

heavy metal or metal is not just about SATANISM
--- that is why there is a word OFTEN. Read your statement again... Ask somebody to help you figure out it might help your statement.

im just stressing out that heavy metal music is not just about satanism
because in your post u have this generalization that heavy metal is often connected with satanism
para ang uban makabasa dili ma mislead or maka think na always satanism ang heavy metal, based on other previous post basig ma mislead sila ba mao akoa gi emphasize

[Kolussus]

@ TS:

the reason y u are transferred to MUSIC & RADIO para ma educar kag tarong. if you see daghan kaau musicians dri na THREAD who's into HEAVY METAL. and daghan dri dli agree sa imong baseless and un proven research. kabaw ka bai kanang WIKI na imo ge pang hambog connect-connect rana sa mga old
research bsan kasagaran statement buhat2x ra sa mga tao na sweto2x parehas nimo. daghan tao dri
daghan kaila na METAL from Mainstream to Extreme Metal and im sure ka daghan dri dli agree na connected pud cla pag ka SATANIST since they enjoy playing there music. its pure IGNORANCE BAI!
grabeh napud nimo oist "wala ga GETS". . . Sakto ang MODS sa SNO na i labay ka dri para ma hinul-nulan imong huna2x.

[dmelsie]

--- see gorgoroth.
--- As a result, members of several bands, including Slayer, Venom, Motley Crue, Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath, and Marilyn Manson have faced accusations of being Satanists.

ok so lets stress this out about norwegian black metal
(dili sad ko suheto kaayo ani nag kugi lang ko research2 sa net)

norway is basically not a christian country if we trace back their history eversince they are known as nordic or believer of the norse methodology, or vikings who believe Odin as their god diba, if im not mistaken, in which mga pagano na sila as what christian church should call them, now christian missionaries comes to their shores and preach about christianity others just accept them, because hibaw na ta mga maayong taw ng mga missionaries, and the turning point for the conversion of norway to christianity was because of King Olaf nga na canononized tungod sa Battle of Stiklestad

King Olav,was a rather stubborn and rash ruler, prone to torturing and murdering those who refused to submit to Christianity, ironically became Norway's patron saint

some reacts and hold to their pagan belief mao ni mga tawhana nakig gubat ni King Olav
in the modern times mao ni si gaahl which is the frontman of gorgoroth , so in order to oppose the christian church they commit what we consider satanic acts because if magbase ta sa christianity ni oppose man sa gitudlo sa simbahan, tiaw bay mosunog og simbahan sa catholic, but ilaha na gihimo para ipaglaban ilang old belief,
if wala ko masayop sa kato documentary nga gi interview si gaahl iya gisulti is we should burn all their churches and pag gi ask siya about satanism murag wa ko mahinumdom nga ni ingon siyag satan is his god (kana if wala ko masayop ha correct me if im wrong na lang)
he even have collections of his own paintings showing his passion for art, and discussed some meanings of his paintings, nga if imoha tan awon maka ingon kag yawa yawa na, its a matter of interpretation sa taw

naa sad lain banda nga vikings2 gyud na ilaha, Amon Amarth name if we examine closely its name mo connect gyud na to Satan, kay if imoha e search Amon = Leviathan or Lucifer but if tapo ng duha ka word it means Mountain of Fate fictional nga lugar based on LOTR but amon amarth is in the norse methodology also

now lets not forget also our very own roots, and history we were pagans at first we believe on our very own anitos, we have our own celebration (today mao ni nahimong fiesta sa mga santos) kay gipa ilisan sa mga espanyol, dont think sa ana nga notion nga wala tay proper organizations , kay highly organised to ato mga ninuno sauna, based on what ive learned from a visayan historian Jess Tirol

now sa pag abot sa mga espanyol daghan sa atoa mga ninuno nga pagano ni sunod sa ilang relihiyon nga gitudlo but its a fact also nga naay ming oppose, and ila gi paglaban ang ilang pagtoo, and kani mga tawhana mao ni ang gituligsa og gitawag mga erehes, mga pagano, and to the extent mahug anti christ, satanic (tan awa ng mga rituals, og ancient symbols og images, og mga rebolto diba maka ingon ka daug yawa yawa na)

mao pod ni ang nahitabo nga notion karon, if ever mo lookback gane ka, mo trace ka sa ancients, mo tan aw ka sa past, ipakita nimo sa imo art, music imo gitoohan, gam an daun kag istorya nga Satanic na daun, without proper understanding and investigation
dili gyud pod noon sakto nga mo sort to burning church, pero even the church mismo ang history ana is puno sa torture og panakit sa taw para lang mosanong og motoo ka sa simbahan diba?

REMINDERS: these are just my own opinion and basing what i have read and akoa lang gi stress out ang generalization nga Often connected ang heavymetal to satanism, in fact Satanic Religion is not what ato makita nga gi discuss nga mag offer offer og human sacrifice, mag costume2 og horror or murag yawa, dig deeper on our history, and during the ancient times, on what these symbols means, and what our ancestors believe

(during the ancient times mag suot sila og matawag nga yawa yawa nga costume then mag offer og animal sacrifice para ang daotang elemento nga gi symbolize sa ila yawa yawa nga costume dili na magsamok og maghatag purwesyo sa ilang komunidad)
black metal may seems like this or the other way which the TS emphasized, its a matter of his own understanding anyway

[groundwork]

btaw bai paminaw sa ug classic metal ug ang history niya. Labi na tong history of thrash metal, malingaw jud ka. Makaingon jud ka ing-ana diay na. If we take it literally aw impyerno jud atong padulngan.