Water as engine fuel anyone?

[rodsky]

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First you should think ngano ni balhin ta sa gasoline, ang steam engine mag depende na sa gidakon sa imong reservoir aron makakuha ka ug kusog nga pwede makadaug ug mga bug-at nga butang.

Ang steam engine nagkinahanglan na ug init aron sa pag pa bukal sa tubig like sa inyuha kanang initan ni mama nmo ug init tubig kanang takuri. pag mobukal na gani makita nmo nga naay puti nga aso gikan sa tubig mao nay steam. mao na ang mo duot sa piston aron maka create ug motion.

Ang pangutana unsa man imo gamiton sa pag pabukal sa tubig bro?

One thing sad dili ang water ang nag power sa steam engine kundi ang gigamit nmo nga sugnod aron sa pag pa bukal sa tubig.

The point of my example had nothing to do with arguing about the viability of steam power for modern day vehicles, or whether such a power source requires a heat source etc. My point was, ang acto sa pagtubil sa tubig is not something new.

-RODION

[moklo]

The point of my example had nothing to do with arguing about the viability of steam power for modern day vehicles, or whether such a power source requires a heat source etc. My point was, ang acto sa pagtubil sa tubig is not something new.

-RODION

Ok I got it bro!

[vernie]

Sa sulod sa combustion chamber at operating engine temperature, init na ang carbon diha - reactive state na sya, inig makakita na ug water vapor or water steam mo react dayon na which will improve the combustion process sa primary fuel na hydrocarbon.

Kung mugamit ka ug tubig as supplemental fuel, ang pinakasayon nimo nga mahimo mao ang pag pasulod sa water vapor(bubbling water) or water steam (heating water around sa exhaust pipe) sa imong engine then feed it sa intake manifold under vacuum. We don't need any liquid going in sa combustion chamber, ang kinahanglan nato vapor form ra.

Someone already did a spark plug type device with holes sa tunga aron makaagi ang water but before sya makagawas from the spark plug device gi subject una sya ug certain voltage and frequency aron mabungkag ang tubig into its hydrogen and oxygen components. Inig lusot, wala nay water mahabilin, hydrogen ug oxygen nalang waiting for ignition.

@vernie, ask lang ko unsaon pagreact sa init na carbon ug water displacing hydrogen gas and carbon monoxide?similar rana sa uling nga nagbaga nya sabligan ug tubig, naa na daun ka hydrogen gas ug CO..

so if we want a water powered vehicle, simple lang..
break down water into its components and inject this components into a
modified combustion chamber.diba?

[Tarmac]

No matter how much you wring your words (sa Binisaya pa, bisag unsahon nimo pagbali-balihon), you definitely cannot state that these vehicles are "water powered"...

Hydrogen vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most of you are talking about hydrogen powered vehicles and NOT water powered vehicles. The only true water-powered vehicle is one that runs on steam power.

-RODION

Hmm... if someone came up with a really small nuclear reactor capable of superheating water, with the resultant steam powering the car, would it be a nuclear- or water-powered car?

[Tarmac]

Sa sulod sa combustion chamber at operating engine temperature, init na ang carbon diha - reactive state na sya, inig makakita na ug water vapor or water steam mo react dayon na which will improve the combustion process sa primary fuel na hydrocarbon.

Kung mugamit ka ug tubig as supplemental fuel, ang pinakasayon nimo nga mahimo mao ang pag pasulod sa water vapor(bubbling water) or water steam (heating water around sa exhaust pipe) sa imong engine then feed it sa intake manifold under vacuum. We don't need any liquid going in sa combustion chamber, ang kinahanglan nato vapor form ra.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the improvement in combustion process is because the water makes the air denser around the intake manifold, and therefore combustion is more efficient?

The early Boeing 747 models had water methanol boost for heavy takeoffs using this principle.

[rodsky]

Hmm... if someone came up with a really small nuclear reactor capable of superheating water, with the resultant steam powering the car, would it be a nuclear- or water-powered car?

Good question. Taking the example of the locomotive, we clearly see that it doesn't only run on water/steam--you need coal to heat up the furnace so that the steam gets created in the boiler, making the train's piston system move the train's wheels. Yet, we do not call a locomotive a "coal engine". We call it a steam engine, because the steam technology is recent, it's newer than a coal-fired furnace, which has been around for centuries. Thus, using this example, your car will be a nuclear-powered car, simply because nuclear power is a more recent technology compared to steam power. This is how I see it.

-RODION

[moklo]

Good question. Taking the example of the locomotive, we clearly see that it doesn't only run on water/steam--you need coal to heat up the furnace so that the steam gets created in the boiler, making the train's piston system move the train's wheels. Yet, we do not call a locomotive a "coal engine". We call it a steam engine, because the steam technology is recent, it's newer than a coal-fired furnace, which has been around for centuries. Thus, using this example, your car will be a nuclear-powered car, simply because nuclear power is a more recent technology compared to steam power. This is how I see it.

-RODION

So nakita na nato ang tubag,

Depende ra jud diay na sa nag imbento ug unsa iya itawag dba? hehehe!

[moklo]

Hmm... if someone came up with a really small nuclear reactor capable of superheating water, with the resultant steam powering the car, would it be a nuclear- or water-powered car?

Mao ni ang process sa mga nuclear plant karon.

Nuclear reactor heats the water to create steam and steam turn the generator turbine to create electricity.

[vernie]

Other than steam, naka kuha ka ug additional boost from the formation of combustible gases like CO (carbon monoxide) and H (hydrogen). Ang nahitabo, mura ka ug nag himo ug bag-ong fuel inside sa combustion chamber.

Kung pasagdan lang gud nimo nga hydrocarbon + air lang ang imong fuel, ang tendency ana daghan gihapon ka unburned carbon mao na mangitom lang imong tambotso ug ang combustion chamber mismo. Time will come mura na ug gi espalto ang top sa imong piston. This will not happen kung naay water component as part of your fuel. Mas cleaner pud ang imong engine oil and will last a little longer since wala may daghang carbon mahabilin after combustion.

Kini nga setup karon, water is used as supplemental fuel only. However, pwede na nimo himoon nga supplemental fuel nalang pud ang gasoline later kung ma process nimo ug maayo ang hydrocarbon vapor and water vapor before na nimo ihungit with air didto sa makina.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the improvement in combustion process is because the water makes the air denser around the intake manifold, and therefore combustion is more efficient?

The early Boeing 747 models had water methanol boost for heavy takeoffs using this principle.