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  1. #61

    This is such a bull! may the TS rot in hell as he would like to be

  2. #62
    murag bag-o ra ka nakahuman ug tan-aw sa nat geo ana TS

    katong ilang docu sa lost gospel of judas, na intriga sad ko ato. pero, kapoi na ug tuo2x oi wa na gale koy gi tuohan

  3. #63
    I believe on the "right" things to do. I don't care on what Religion I belong. I also don't care the history. I may want to know the facts but I couldn't care much. I only know that God is good. I just have to do the things right and good. Those who wanted to complicate things, kamo lang. hehe ^_^

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by jhldelfino View Post
    I believe on the "right" things to do. I don't care on what Religion I belong. I also don't care the history. I may want to know the facts but I couldn't care much. I only know that God is good. I just have to do the things right and good. Those who wanted to complicate things, kamo lang. hehe ^_^
    Very well said bro... nagobil na sad ako utok cge binasa aning mga thread nga way Ginoo, Imagine there's no heaven, etc.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by LightBearer View Post
    lahi naman pod ni kay ang previous nga discussion is about sa imong pag quote sa phrase "wages of sin" nga naa sa Romans 6:23 to mean nga gibayran ni Jesus ang atong sala pinaagi sa iyang kamatayon. Well yes gi bayran niya but to use Romans 6:23 to support your idea is unfit kay sama na sa akong gi ingon ang WAGES of SIN, ang pasabot ato didto is katong Sala ni Adam, ang WAGES ato is Death.

    osbon nako para klaro sir, nigamit ka sa phrase nga WAGES of SIN to support the idea of Jesus paid our sins through his death,di ba? nya ingon ko nga dili na siya fit nga verse gamiton for that idea kay ang pasabot sa WAGES of SIN sa Romans is katong Sala nga na commit ni Adam nga napasa sa tao, ang bayad ato is DEATH, mao na ang pasabot sa Romans 6:23-- for the WAGES of SIN is DEATH and not to support the idea nga gibayran ni Jesus atong sala pinaagi sa iyang kamatayon.

    kanang naa sa taas which is Romans 3:23 dili man na siya mao atong gi discuss.
    sorry brad, what im trying to tell you is this:

    For all have sinned <---- all men no exception
    For the wages of sin is death <---- all men will die because of sin
    New Covenant he will gave us life. For we are purchase by his blood to cleanse our sins.

    NOTICE: Book of Romans is directed for the Gentiles. It is a commandment, laws, and moral to live a christian life. Those things mentioned in book of romans are for us. It is in present tenses. Bro read the following verse,

    Do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to men who know the law--that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives?

    again it is for you and for me... it is still in effect. But we dont have to worry about death, he will come and save us.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat69 View Post
    murag bag-o ra ka nakahuman ug tan-aw sa nat geo ana TS

    katong ilang docu sa lost gospel of judas, na intriga sad ko ato. pero, kapoi na ug tuo2x oi wa na gale koy gi tuohan
    I watch it also:

    Gospel of Judas:

    Tells us this: Give your sympathy to Judas. They appeal on the Hearts of men. It said Jesus and Judas were talking that he ask judas to betray him. During the last supper, Jesus mock his desciple with a laugh that they were stupid to believe in God...

    Bible Scholars Say:
    It cannot be part of the gospel for 1 book will destroy all the books inspired in the bible. It is authentic as scientist use carbon dating to prove it was indeed written bettween 50 AD +- 50 years. 4gospel of Christ book, Matthew, john, mark, and luke describe judas. It never mentioned Jesus mocking during the last supper.

    Bible means GOOD NEWS! What is Good news when the book of judas were to destroy its context.

    What we have here is a witness of 1 against 4 if indeed it is authentic. It is inspired by who? something we just do not know and will be left unknown.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by godlessandfree View Post
    What if the devil used Jesus to lead you all to hell?

    Judas didn't have to betray Jesus, Jesus needed to die.

    Judas made that happen... FOR YOU..

    So forget Jesus, Jesus committed suicide.

    He knew he was going to die and made it happen anyway.

    Judas had no free will. God's plan was set... Jesus had to die.

    One man had to betray him otherwise Jesus would have had to kill himself with his own hands..

    That said, the traitor lost his free will from the start..

    It didn't matter which of the disciples betrayed Jesus, God's word had to be fulfilled.

    Judas was the chosen one. He was the sacrifice. He died for your sins.

    Judas Iscariot went to hell for you.

    Think about it.

    Not possible? Consider this:

    Barabbas' , the murderer's first name is also Jesus...

    The name "Barabbas" is simply the Greek form of the Aramaic "bar Abba" which means "son of the Father." Thus "Jesus Barabbas" originally meant "Jesus the son of the Father," in other words, the usual Christian Jesus. When the earlier story claimed that the Jews wanted Jesus Barabbas to be set free it was referring to the usual Jesus. Somebody distorted the story by claiming that Jesus Barabbas was a different person to Jesus Christ and this fooled the Roman and Greek Christians who did not know the meaning of the name "Barabbas."


    "For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever shall believe in him shall believe in anything." - Godlessandfree 3:16


    Think for yourself, be yourself. Unless you suck.=)

    FREE YOUR MIND.

    By the way, here's my answer:

    I've decided to convert to all religions. *JUST IN CASE!


    Bye
    Interesting theory, bro. But what's your source?

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Hitler went to heaven for these reasons: There is no hell, so there is no place else for him to go. His actions were what you call mistakes—the actions of an unevolved being—and mistakes are not punishable by condemnation, but dealt with by providing the chance for correction, for evolution. The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon.
    What do you mean by that, bro, that what Hitler did to the Jews was not evil?

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    There is no evil amongst us. We are all human beings with different degrees or levels of consciousness. Jesus and Buddha are examples who achieved the highest level of consciousness and the consciousness of hitler was far behind to those masters and saints and yet they are all humans like us!

    If we could forgive and repent?...then God's love is not infinite but therefore conditional...come to think of it....GOD DOES NOT PUNISH NOR REWARD. WE PUNISH AND REWARD OURSELVES THROUGH THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR ACTIONS.
    So you're saying bro that evil does not exist?

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Well, Christianity after all is just a belief which stems from the pagan religions.
    Bro, it seems you didn't really respond to The_Child's points and brought up a different issue. Isn't that a red herring fallacy?

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