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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBearer View Post
    the point is Jesus' death story in the bible make no sense. God can forgive us with or without the cross.
    It does makes sense... a God who understands you personally.

    God can forgive us with or without the cross.
    --- yes and no. For the wages of SIN is DEATH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Hitler went to heaven for these reasons: There is no hell, so there is no place else for him to go. His actions were what you call mistakes—the actions of an unevolved being—and mistakes are not punishable by condemnation, but dealt with by providing the chance for correction, for evolution. The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon.

    Relax GOD LOVES YOU and Hitler and Judas too!
    I think they went to NEVER NEVER LAND and become a tinkerbell's servant...

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    If Judas and Hitler went to Hell...then GOD must be there too for GOD loves them infinitely without conditions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    It does makes sense... a God who understands you personally.

    God can forgive us with or without the cross.
    --- yes and no. For the wages of SIN is DEATH.
    This is based on Romans di ba? In my own understanding kana nga verse is about the original sin and not sa pagbayad ni Jesus sa sala sa mga tao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Committed Suicide? Jesus knew he was born to die, his death was the fulfillment of prophetic text and covenants with the ancient Hebrew. Christ was murdered by those that would not believe.
    Much as you choose to do now, just to push your own agenda of disbelief. More Atheistic tricks and word play, how do you know you are not just Satan's tool?

    The question could be asked. "Is Satan using your testimony to cheapen the sacrifice that Jesus made for us to have a path to salvation, thus trying to use you to help lead us to Hell?

    That is a problem; if your mind tries to venture too far outside of the box, you can loose your way home.
    maybe one example wo loose his way to its home is Mr. regnauld,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alramzz View Post
    maybe one example wo loose his way to its home is Mr. regnauld,.ah

    hahahahah...I have sold my soul to the devil already but I dont have to worry for GOD is with me all the time and in all places! hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    If Judas and Hitler went to Hell...then GOD must be there too for GOD loves them infinitely without conditions!
    Then how about "dualism", perhaps there is a test for us in how we would respond to GOD's infinite love, for as I could see total freedom to choose were given to us by GOD........

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    all our respect on your venture,. mr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Then how about "dualism", perhaps there is a test for us in how we would respond to GOD's infinite love, for as I could see total freedom to choose were given to us by GOD........
    how do you measure infinity in the case of Gods infinite love and goodness if one goes to hell?

    Can Gods infinite love be defeated by just human freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    how do you measure infinity in the case of Gods infinite love and goodness if one goes to hell?

    Can Gods infinite love be defeated by just human freedom?
    Then why there is righteous and evil amongst us..........
    Perhaps we could consider the bad one's as persons who did not give substance towards the infinite love of GOD, then if so, I do think that the infinite love of GOD could only be applied to persons who believe in him.....
    But still GOD's love is infinite he could forgive us if we would repent.....

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