Legalize Abortion?

[AmorsoloX]

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ok.. nindot man gi propose nga alternatives..

but wheres the education part? so ignorant diay ang mga unmarried?

theres nothing wrong with family planning, for me, dapat gani jud naa family planning seminar before mag kasal..

ngano FMP ra man? kung gusto diay mag "labing2x" ang couple? mag unsa nlang sila?

kanindot sa contraceptives kay anytime pwede... now grabe napud naa moingon immoral na kay dili for the purpose of reproduction..


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to the guy nga moingon nga immoral ng $e>< nga dili maghimo bata....
-you seriously need to get laid dude....

[mannyamador]

ok.. nindot man gi propose nga alternatives.

but wheres the education part? so ignorant diay ang mga unmarried?

The education part is in numbers 4 and 5. This is both for married couples and singles.

4. Provide funding and institutional support for abstinence education in schools since this is the most effective type of reproductive health education. No one, however, should be forced to attend such classes. Parents may opt out if they wish.

5. Provide funding and institutional support for the promotion of Natural Family Planning (NFP) among married couples that need to space births.[/list]

kanindot sa contraceptives kay anytime pwede.

But contraceptive usage causes MORE unwanted pregnancies. Contraceptives make the problem even worse. Please see the evidence in my other post (https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...ml#post6023647)




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[mannyamador]

Kill ‘Bill’?
By Roberto de Ocampo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:03:00 11/27/2009
http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...8839/Kill-Bill

AT THE outset I have to admit that I am no stranger to condoms and can attest to their effectiveness. I have four children and could have had more but my wife and I agreed that four was enough and implemented that plan accordingly. Furthermore, the bulk of my career had been in public service from the founding of the rural electrification program (early ’70s) to my stint in the Cabinet, and thus I have been to every nook and cranny of the Philippines and have seen the full range of poverty in our country. Given this quick background, one would think that I should be an obvious supporter of the Reproductive Health (RH) bill. I am not. I have serious misgivings about it.

First, I find it unnecessary. If as the supporters have time and again emphasized, the major shortcoming of our current population management program is the need for more widespread education and information, then I submit that the government presently has the breadth and depth of institutional capability to do this with the voluntary cooperation of the private sector, including the Church. If the observation is that the government has not done this well enough, this can be redressed with a good combination of political will and leadership and a better budget allocation, not a bill. True, the Church will promote only natural family planning methods. So be it. That’s the role and position of the Church. The state’s role is to help expand the public’s knowledge of choices, not limit it.

This leads me to my second serious misgiving, namely, the present draft bill contains punitive provisions that are tantamount to an affront to civil liberties and smack of religious persecution. Just read the section mandating private sector employees and private health practitioners to actively promote artificial birth control methods and distribute devices whether or not their conscience and religious convictions agree with the practice. Combine that with the section imposing penalties of imprisonment or fines or both if they don’t follow or are deemed guilty of “perceived violations” and tell me that the bill does not encroach on basic civil rights. Tell me that the bill does not unfairly force a person into a moral dilemma, a State-induced struggle of conscience. This is not education, it’s coercion. This is not choice, it’s threat.

Of course, there are those who would say, “don’t worry, the legislators will get rid of those provisions in the final version.” I wish I could be so sanguine as to simply smile and accept that. But I am not a novice of the legislative process and have been in the trenches of legislative battles often enough to know that a bill’s passage is not a clinical operation but goes from compromise to compromise and finally ends up with implementing rules and regulations to provide it with sharper enforcement teeth. Whatever the outcome, the law cannot be so toothless as to be useless, or why have a bill at all? If it is a law with teeth, it has to be enforced and enforcement of laws often involves the arena of litigation. Litigation on the other hand opens the door for abuses by the unscrupulous and the harassment of even the upright citizen. I don’t know about you, but I for one am not prepared to surrender one of my most sacred human rights and personal choices by seeing it transferred by the State from the arena of personal morality and conscience to the arena of legislation and litigation.

Finally, I find it truly disingenuous for anyone to proceed on the premise that the poor are to blame for the nation’s poverty. This seems to be one of the bill’s underlying economic philosophies—i.e., we could be such a richer nation if the poor would do something better than just go forth and multiply. Pardon me, but in the context of our income-distribution challenged society, the poor are often the victims, not the problem. And let’s not forget that it’s the poor, not the wealthy, whose acknowledged sacrifices as overseas workers are propping up this struggling economy. If a major concern of the bill is to help reduce poverty, then I cannot believe that the bill’s proponents and supporters are unaware of the many other major factors that are the root causes of poverty (poor governance, corruption, severely unequal distribution of wealth, low productivity, unattractive investment policies, etc.) and, of course, the many other alternatives that can be brought to bear to address them (giving up pork barrel, reforming land reform, raising tax collection efficiency, curtailing dynastic politics, etc.).

Yes, I am against having a bill. But don’t get me wrong, I am not against family planning. Neither is the Church. I may not even entirely agree with the Church’s position on family planning, but I would take offense at any attempt to caricature my Church’s stand for the purpose of foisting an uncalled for invasion of my private space.

Let’s join hands to educate the public particularly the poor, more broadly and more effectively, but let’s also join hands to keep the lid closed on a Pandora’s Box, which the RH bill is.

Roberto F. de Ocampo is a former finance secretary and Finance Minister of the Year in 1995, 1996 and 1997.

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[mannyamador]

Gibo’s wife withdraws support for RH bill
Written by Fernan Marasigan / Reporter
Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:56
http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/na...r-rh-bill.html

SAYING that it has been “defanged and is now toothless” the legislator-wife of former defense secretary Gilbert Teodoro, the administration bet in the 2010 presidential elections, has withdrawn her support for the controversial reproductive-health bill.

In pulling out her support for House Bill 5043, Lakas-Kampi-CMD Rep. Nikki Prieto Teodoro of Tarlac said the measure does not directly address the problem of poverty in the country, where about 5,000 Filipinos are born daily, most of them ending up poor.

“I don’t want to give poor Filipinos, especially children, the false hope that this bill will solve the problem of poverty because it does not. I’d rather spend our meager resources in directly feeding the poor, clothing the naked, giving shelter to the poor and educating them so they grow up productive and independent,” said Teodoro.

She said that with the country’s population standing at 92.2 million this year, it is the impoverished children who suffer the most. “Children’s innocence is broken because they have to struggle to meet their basic needs,” Teodoro said.

She said the people should be told that it takes more than population control to reduce poverty and spark socio-economic development in the Philippines.

“Population growth is not a problem if resources are available and well-managed to cope with the additional people requiring public services, employment, housing and so on,” said Teodoro.

The reproductive-health bill, now in the period of interpellation for second reading at the House of Representatives, is expected to be one of the top items on the agenda when Congress resumes session on December 7.

It aims to grant public funding to family-planning methods using artificial contraceptives and *** education for students. It also gives access to reproductive-health information to avoid unwanted and untimely pregnancies and maternal deaths to limit the country’s population.

But Teodoro said majority of maternal deaths are caused by the lack of proper medical facilities and care. She said the reproductive-health bill does not address this lack of basic health-care services, and will allow the problem to persist while it wastes funds on abortifacients and other ineffective reproductive-health measures.

She said that population policy should not concentrate too narrowly on contraception alone. She said the government should also look into women’s rights and education because they are also critical elements of the population-development equation.

Rather than focus on the artificial form of family planning, Teodoro said that heightened emphasis should be placed on informing, educating and providing the poor with better access to education.

She said that her new stand on the issue is consistent with her husband’s platform of government to fight against the “four faces of poverty: poverty of the mind, poverty of the pocket, poverty of the environment, poverty of relationships.”

“We shall protect the life of each and every citizen. Respect for life shall be from the moment of conception to the moment of death of our constituents. The protection of life is guaranteed by our constitution and on this principle there is no compromise,” former defense secretary Teodoro said in his speech during the Lakas-Kampi-CMD convention recently.

"The greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion, which is war against the child.
The mother doesn't learn to love, but kills to solve her own problems.
Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence
to get what they want." -- Mother Teresa of Calcutta
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[mannyamador]

Social Justice Begins In The Womb, New Book Shows Pro-Life is Pro-Human Rights
http://www.lifenews.com/nat5733.html

Excerpt:

Cutting, starvation, human trafficking, AIDS, and child labor are all tragedies that should deeply concern all of us.

Each of these issues deserves our prayers and action. While all of these causes are popular to be involved with, the killing of innocent children in the womb is often overlooked or ignored. If you are willing to take a stand against the inhumanity of human trafficking or child labor, you should also be willing to take a stand against the killing of almost 4,000 innocent children every day through abortion.

The social justice mission must begin in the womb.

Read the entire story at:
http://www.lifenews.com/nat5733.html



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[- khenz -]

..i DEFINITELY DISAGREE with this bill..

[laura]

commandment no.6: thou shall not kill ..

[Warnok]

a big no...NO...NO

[pankie101]

capital

N - O.

ug di ka ready..
di lang unta ka magpatuyang noh?

[mannyamador]

Copenhagen summit anti-population 'extremists’ are unscientific, researcher cautions
Steve Mosher, President of Population Research Institute.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ne...cher_cautions/

Front Royal, Va., Dec 18, 2009 / 06:49 am (CNA).- With the close of the Copenhagen summit on climate change, demographics expert Steven W. Mosher has warned that blaming overpopulation for global warming is “unscientific” and “dangerous.” “The people of China have paid dearly for their leader's obsession with driving down the birthrate, and now we hear anti-population extremists at Copenhagen advocating a China-like one-child policy for the entire world,” Mosher said in a Thursday press release.

Mosher, president of the Virginia-based Population Research Institute (PRI), is an expert on China’s one-child policy. He has witnessed forced abortions and forced sterilizations performed on pregnant women in China.

“Population extremists speak of a world in danger from exploding population. But one wonders what ‘world they are talking about.”

He said that at present “tremendous strides” have been made to produce more food from less land and to set aside land for nature preserves. Mosher also cited population statistics which show birth rates plummeting and population growth plateauing.

“The demographic collapse of the developed world is the real inconvenient truth,” Mosher commented, predicting that much of the developing world will follow the same path.

“We would be better served holding summits on these matters if we want to stave off economic and societal collapse. Climate change can wait. Providing for the future by providing the next generation cannot. Weather fluctuations or not, we should have more children, not fewer.”

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